"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"
-- 8th Amendment to the United States Constitution
seriously, this is a major problem
Posted on 07/03/2015 6:20:59 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
The last we had heard from Aaron and Melissa Klein, the former owners of Sweet Cakes in Oregon that lost their bakery business after refusing to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple, the site GoFundMe had shut down their crowdfunding operation. That was in April, but the drama was not over for the Kleins, who faced a stiff fine for their allegedly discriminatory conduct. Aaron and Melissa defended themselves in media interviews in an attempt to prevent the state of Oregon from further penalizing them, but Oregon Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian went even further than anyone might have imagined.
Not only did Avakian levy a $135,000 judgment against the Kleins for “emotional damages” to the couple denied a wedding cake, he slapped a gag order on them that forbids the Kleins from explaining to potential customers of Sweet Cakes why they won’t bake a cake for a same-sex wedding. Of course, since they’re no longer in business, it no longer matters — and even if they were, the $135,000 fine would make sure they weren’t. The Daily Signal poses this as a broader gag order than it is, however:
Oregon Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian finalized a preliminary ruling today ordering Aaron and Melissa Klein, the bakers who refused to make a cake for a same-sex wedding, to pay $135,000 in emotional damages to the couple they denied service.
“This case is not about a wedding cake or a marriage,” Avakian wrote. “It is about a business’s refusal to serve someone because of their sexual orientation. Under Oregon law, that is illegal.”
In the ruling, Avakian placed an effective gag order on the Kleins, ordering them to “cease and desist” from speaking publicly about not wanting to bake cakes for same-sex weddings based on their Christian beliefs.
“This effectively strips us of all our First Amendment rights,” the Kleins, owners of Sweet Cakes by Melissa, which has since closed, wrote on their Facebook page. “According to the state of Oregon we neither have freedom of religion or freedom of speech.”
Daily Signal writer Kelsey Harkness posted the portion of the order in which the gag clause appears:
Here's the paragraph where commissioner @BradAvakian ordered cease & desist against Christian #sweetcakes owners: pic.twitter.com/wJ2z4UaSpe
— Kelsey Harkness (@kelseyjharkness) July 3, 2015
This is not, as some on Twitter and the Daily Signal argue, a gag order against discussing the case. as Jeff B at AoSHQDD rightly points out. It relates to communication in their business about their policies, which would still be a violation of their First Amendment speech rights, but no longer applies. The Kleins lost their business almost two years ago due to the negative publicity of the complaint. This clause is moot now, which makes one wonder why Avakian bothered to include it at all. It also misrepresents the case at hand. The issue for Sweet Cakes, as it was in other cases, was not one of a refusal to serve on the basis of sexual orientation but the refusal to participate in an event that violated their religious tenets. The gag order clause makes it sound as though the Kleins refused service to people solely on the basis of sexual orientation, which was not the case.
The fine in this case is far more egregious. An average wedding cake will run around a thousand dollars, more or less — so for what kind of damages is Avakian compensating? Did the Kleins refuse to do 135 same-sex wedding ceremonies? Not exactly. As this video from April reminds us, the claim from the one couple contained a ridiculously long list of damages from this one refusal to do business with the couple, none of them substantiated by any medical or expert testimony:
who’s got the cartoon of the rainbow gun to the baker’s head?
Here is the link to the funding site:
https://www.continuetogive.com/4811392/videos
They are at 59% of their goal at the time of this posting.
Anything you can give will help!
Thank you!
Making it up as they go... justice under Liberals.
“We hate you, so it’s okay.”
I hate liberals.
If there’s anything more disgusting than the average liberal, it’s the nasty Portand nazis.
"Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"
-- 8th Amendment to the United States Constitution
seriously, this is a major problem
They can kiss my hip pockets. I will speak till the sorry good for nothing sodomites win the gun battle over me.
God help me, I hate them, too. They’re making me hate them.
Tyranny!
I used to tolerate liberals. I used to feel bad that they were ignorant. But they have robbed us of our liberty and they demand that we love them and agree with everything they say.
To hell with them. Literally.
They ought to drop the Bowman and simply call themselves the Cryers. They hope to be crying all the way to the bank.
Miserable, low-down grifters.
RE: They hope to be crying all the way to the bank.
You might have stumbled into something...
Wanna get rich? Harass a Christian business.
Nevermind.
Just think: NO ONE is fighting back.
On his radio show yesterday, Dennis Prager remarked that conservatives don't fight.
Right. 8th and 1st and a few others.
This may well go to SCOTUS.
The accusers failed to prove any substantial losses rising to this level of financial punishment. This is setting a ridiculous new precedent. You hurt my feelings, now fork over your cash. This is extortion.
The government knows best what you should think and what you should believe.
Those lesbians are on a path to hell.
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