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US Catholics ready to follow Pope's 'marching orders' on climate change
MSN news ^ | June 18, 2015 | Suzanne Goldenberg

Posted on 06/18/2015 1:22:58 PM PDT by detective

Leaders of the Catholic Church in America took their “marching orders” from the Pope’s encyclical on Thursday, fanning out to Congress and the White House to push for action on climate change.

The high-level meetings offered a first glimpse of a vast and highly organised effort by the leadership of America’s nearly 80 million Catholics to turn the Pope’s moral call for action into reality.

“It is our marching orders for advocacy,” Joseph Kurtz, the president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops and the Archbishop of Louisville, said. “It really brings about a new urgency for us.”

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KEYWORDS: 666; climatechange; climatechangefraud; popeclimatechange; popefrancis
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To: Texan5
You do not approve of Catholics?

I'm not sure how you've gotten that from anything I've written.

My issue is entirely with what the pope has said, and I don't believe it is an accident, naivete, or mistranslation. He is an intelligent man from an elite order surrounded by the elite of his church. This was not done casually, and he understands full well the tremendously damaging uses to which his pronouncements can be put and carefully backs them off -- as all Leftist weasels do -- whenever there is any pushback. That's 100% of my position.

I have both Roman Catholics and Orthodox Catholics in my family, and quite possibly the fastest way to get yourself a punch in the mouth is to refer to the Orthodox as a "sect."

141 posted on 06/18/2015 3:27:14 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Let's call it what it is: Climate Immorality. Now say a Dozen Hail Marys and six Our Fathers.)
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To: RitaOK

LOL, wow, you are just raging insanely.


142 posted on 06/18/2015 3:32:12 PM PDT by ansel12 (Trump “I identify as Democrat” favorite president "Clinton" your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: miss marmelstein; jwalsh07
Careful. marmelstein is first going to accuse you of being obtuse, then she'll accuse you of ad hominem when she has no real answer to your argument. She's still smarting from a beat down she got over the claim that Richard the III was anything but a disgusting, fratricidal traitor, and that was some months ago.

The English meaning was pretty clear to anybody without a reading comprehension problem: the church has a history of embracing bad science.

143 posted on 06/18/2015 3:32:24 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Let's call it what it is: Climate Immorality. Now say a Dozen Hail Marys and six Our Fathers.)
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To: Texan5

Good, me too. The most important thing is to first let conservatives know how Catholics vote, and educate them on the purpose and fulfillment of the 1965 Immigration Act for the American left.


144 posted on 06/18/2015 3:35:05 PM PDT by ansel12 (Trump-“I identify as Democrat” favorite president-"Clinton" your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: jwalsh07

Of course I know what I’m talking about, the Catholics vote majority left, as do the non-Christian religions, atheists, and homosexuals, and agnostics and others.

The majority of non-Catholic Christians, vote republican.


145 posted on 06/18/2015 3:39:13 PM PDT by ansel12 (Trump- I identify as Democrat-- favorite president-Clinton-- your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: detective

If only Francis would go full Jim Jones...


146 posted on 06/18/2015 3:39:52 PM PDT by Clemenza (Lurking)
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To: IrishBrigade

“...and then, it will be my duty to walk away from the Faith...” ———

To whom will you go?

The pope is not the Church, in himself. We have suffered worse. We know we are destined to suffer even more.

Buck up, or leave. Holy ground is for girded soldiers, not fear filled observers.


147 posted on 06/18/2015 3:46:23 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: ansel12

Coming from you that must mean you’re done, or cleaning your toe nails.


148 posted on 06/18/2015 3:50:09 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: IrishBrigade

It is one thing to switch denominations, another thing entirely, to walk away from the Christian faith.


149 posted on 06/18/2015 3:50:12 PM PDT by ansel12 (Trump- I identify as Democrat-- favorite president-Clinton-- your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: FredZarguna

Please don’t comment if you haven’t followed the sub-thread.

fair enough...sorry for any confusion...

OK, I’ll stipulate that the damage from misinformed policy turns not on papal infallibility-which everyone knows is strictly limited in its application,(though many on this thread pretend not to know this) but on the fact that his stature gives it undue influence...

but this is obvious on its face, is it not...? I’ve not seen any post asserting the primacy of infallibility...


150 posted on 06/18/2015 3:51:00 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls the climates of all its planets.

3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


151 posted on 06/18/2015 3:53:59 PM PDT by abclily
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
You need to correct that to state liberal Catholics - not all Catholics.

Actually, it's not even that. It's the senior Catholic hierarchy/leadership in the US.

“It is our marching orders for advocacy,” Joseph Kurtz, the president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops and the Archbishop of Louisville, said. “It really brings about a new urgency for us.”

When Archbishop Kurtz walks out the front door of Louisville's Cathedral of the Assumption, hangs a right, walks about four blocks down to the Ohio River, jumps in and swims out to the middle of the channel to block all the coal barges on the river, I'll be more than happy to acknowledge that he really feels a true sense of urgency on this.
152 posted on 06/18/2015 3:56:15 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: RitaOK

To whom will you go?

ever heard of the SSPX...?

The pope is not the Church, in himself.

nah...really...?

Buck up, or leave

the smart individual leaves a deficient worship...and the unintelligent one stays...


153 posted on 06/18/2015 3:57:58 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: RitaOK

You represent your Pope and your church very well.


154 posted on 06/18/2015 3:59:50 PM PDT by ansel12 (Trump- I identify as Democrat-- favorite president?-Clinton-- your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: IrishBrigade
I think my issue with all this is not the influence and its damage, but with the claim that this is not intentional and we really need to read the whole thing to understand that it's "not all that bad." And yes, there are few here making that statement.

Here was my original take

155 posted on 06/18/2015 4:02:01 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Let's call it what it is: Climate Immorality. Now say a Dozen Hail Marys and six Our Fathers.)
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To: ansel12

It is one thing to switch denominations, another thing entirely, to walk away from the Christian faith.

were I to do so, I would have my reasons...but you have made an inference about my statement that I never implied...even a cursory glance would confirm that I was referring to a secularized modern Catholic Church that I am afraid is on the horizon...


156 posted on 06/18/2015 4:03:26 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: betty boop; detective; Alamo-Girl; marron; hosepipe; YHAOS; caww; wagglebee; P-Marlowe
In my fancy, he may well be Nostradamus' Peter the Roman, the LAST pope.

I thought the evil pope was that pope preceding the final pope, the last pope being a good man. Do I have the prophecy wrong? Thanks.

As I've expressed elsewhere, I'm fine with developing alternative energy. I just don't think that in the interim any of the available forms of energy is 'sinful'. They really depend on availability and cost relative to the wealth of the buyer.

Ezekiel 15:6 "Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; As the vine tree among the trees of the forest, which I have given to the fire for fuel, so will I give the inhabitants of Jerusalem."

157 posted on 06/18/2015 4:07:15 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: FredZarguna

The pope is/has become a socialist, living in Argentina, so no, his encyclical is not accidental at all. I think it borders on the apostate, but that is just my opinion.

I’ve been to a Maronite church a few times, and to church with a friend who belongs to the Greek Orthodox church-I’ve used the word “sect” when talking about our respective churches, and he didn’t say it was offensive-probably being polite-so thanks for telling me it offends.

If a major schism happens over all this, I would not be surprised at all-and I doubt church historians will deal kindly with Francis, whether that happens or not...


158 posted on 06/18/2015 4:08:36 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: IrishBrigade

When you said “walk away from the Faith...” I thought that meant the Christian faith.


159 posted on 06/18/2015 4:13:40 PM PDT by ansel12 (Trump- I identify as Democrat-- favorite president?-Clinton-- your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: Texan5

and I doubt church historians will deal kindly with Francis, whether that happens or not...

you are wrong...oh, it may very well be that historians in the distant future will cast a critical eye at Francis...but in the first few months after Francis’ papacy ends, the Church will fall all over itself to canonize him, much in the manner of JPII, all in an attempt to validate the 1960’s apostasy that was termed the ‘spirit of Vat II’...

the Church spent a great deal of its ecclesiastical capital in its deliberate misinterpretation of the Vat II documents...and it aims to make the ‘investment’ pay off...


160 posted on 06/18/2015 4:22:33 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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