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US Catholics ready to follow Pope's 'marching orders' on climate change
MSN news ^ | June 18, 2015 | Suzanne Goldenberg

Posted on 06/18/2015 1:22:58 PM PDT by detective

Leaders of the Catholic Church in America took their “marching orders” from the Pope’s encyclical on Thursday, fanning out to Congress and the White House to push for action on climate change.

The high-level meetings offered a first glimpse of a vast and highly organised effort by the leadership of America’s nearly 80 million Catholics to turn the Pope’s moral call for action into reality.

“It is our marching orders for advocacy,” Joseph Kurtz, the president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops and the Archbishop of Louisville, said. “It really brings about a new urgency for us.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 666; climatechange; climatechangefraud; popeclimatechange; popefrancis
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To: miss marmelstein

>> I honestly don’t think this Pope is wildly intelligent.

Far be it from me to argue that point with you. :-)


121 posted on 06/18/2015 2:59:12 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: ansel12

Admittedly, I live in a redneck rural area-but there are lots of Catholics here and we most definitely think that this pope is a communist, clueless and we don’t take any of his unscientific, ridiculous pronouncements or encyclicals seriously-he can talk all he wants and we don’t vote liberal. Catholics at FR don’t vote left that I’ve seen, either.


122 posted on 06/18/2015 3:00:04 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: miss marmelstein
Well, you can scratch the first name from your list, because Copernicus was NOT a priest. Don't know about the validity of the rest of the names.

http://www.philosophy-religion.org/handouts/pdfs/Copernicus-rev.pdf

123 posted on 06/18/2015 3:01:45 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Let's call it what it is: Climate Immorality. Now say a Dozen Hail Marys and six Our Fathers.)
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To: Texan5

That doesn’t change the facts of the Catholic vote.


124 posted on 06/18/2015 3:03:44 PM PDT by ansel12 (Trump “I identify as Democrat” favorite president "Clinton" your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: FredZarguna

i don’t think he knows. i think he is insulated by the bureaucracy of the vatican and is not aware of the backgrounds of all of the official visitors he meets or that the vatican sponsors.

no pope could ever deliberately push for policies that lead to population control, but that’s not to say that a pope cannot be duped into supporting policies that can be twisted by others into justifications for population control.

i’m Catholic and i’m terribly disappointed in this pope. i truly believe he doesn’t understand the political ramifications beyond the vatican of the things he says and does. that’s his fault. he needs better advisers on such matters and he needs to learn not to speak extemporaneously about matters he’s not well-informed on. the good will he feels towards others is often not reciprocated and media that is hostile to Catholic teachings is always eager to use his own words against him and against the church.


125 posted on 06/18/2015 3:06:03 PM PDT by TangibleDisgust (The Parmesan doesn't go like that.)
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To: IrishBrigade; miss marmelstein
Please don't comment if you haven't followed the sub-thread. marmelstein failed to address a claim I made, that the point here was not in the least about infallibility -- which she thinks the poor benighted Christians can't understand -- but about the fact that the pope's stature in lending his opinion to this matter is harmful. The discussion begins around post #58.
126 posted on 06/18/2015 3:07:49 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Let's call it what it is: Climate Immorality. Now say a Dozen Hail Marys and six Our Fathers.)
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To: IrishBrigade; miss marmelstein
Please don't comment if you haven't followed the sub-thread. marmelstein failed to address a claim I made, that the point here was not in the least about infallibility -- which she thinks the poor benighted Christians can't understand -- but about the fact that the pope's stature in lending his opinion to this matter is harmful. The discussion begins around post #58.
127 posted on 06/18/2015 3:07:50 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Let's call it what it is: Climate Immorality. Now say a Dozen Hail Marys and six Our Fathers.)
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To: detective

Aren’t we methodically addressing ‘climate change’ or our need to get off of fossil fuel anyway? Speeding up the pace looks like an economic disaster - especially for developed countries - seems like insanity and now the Catholic church is involved.

The Catholic Church will pay a huge price for this position.


128 posted on 06/18/2015 3:08:08 PM PDT by relentlessly
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To: RitaOK

As for Pope Francis. Poor Francis. He has been duped by those much craftier than he.

come now...he knows exactly what he is talking about...my own fear is that Francis represents prototype for a future, long serving pontiff, probably a third world native who will instill the ‘Spirit of Vatican II’ before the progressives of the 1960’s die off...one who will make Francis look like Aquinas...and then, it will be my duty to walk away from the Faith...


129 posted on 06/18/2015 3:08:33 PM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: ansel12; miss marmelstein; PGR88

As opposed to your precise, thoughtful and relevant to what posts? How vivid.

You are a propagandizer of things you don’t understand, don’t intend to understand, and then pepper your bitterness and your crap biases with a few poll numbers, which make you a self made genius, who contributes nothing ever to any diologue anywhere, but for your signature garden variety horse waste.


130 posted on 06/18/2015 3:09:49 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: FredZarguna

Copernicus was never ordained a priest although he took minor orders and studied Canon law. All of his work was done through the Catholic Church.

The rest of my list were all priests. The list is quite long.


131 posted on 06/18/2015 3:10:21 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: FredZarguna
I don't like to communicate with you because you have had a history of engaging in wild, ad hominum attacks on people you don't agree with. For the record, I don't have to explain anything or address anything to you. So buzz off.
132 posted on 06/18/2015 3:13:51 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: ansel12

Like I said you don’t know what you are talking about. Catholics basically mirror society at large. A small majority of white Catholics vote Republican while about 40% identify as Democrats. Hispanic Catholics vote about 60-40 for dems. These are well known and researched stats as opposed to false claims that “Catholics vote left”


133 posted on 06/18/2015 3:14:05 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: FredZarguna

MrT5 was career military, so I’ve traveled a bit and have attended plenty of Catholic churches, Roman and otherwise-damned few of them are fully obedient-especially in places that are isolated-and those don’t have empty pews, either.

Catholics in civilized places don’t consider the pope’s word the only word-other than in some 3d world or socialist countries-like maybe Argentina-where the church only exists because the government allows it to as an extension of their dogma-it is all that is allowed, because those are not free countries. This pope apparently does not understand people-Catholic or otherwise-who live in free countries, and do not fall to the ground when he speaks...

You do not approve of Catholics?


134 posted on 06/18/2015 3:16:42 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: TangibleDisgust
Sorry, but I can't agree. He hasn't been in the Vatican his whole life. He was politically active in Argentina. The previous Kirchner considered him a political rival. He speaks how many languages? Four? Five? He's a Jesuit. That's the elite.

He's not stupid and he's not naive.

135 posted on 06/18/2015 3:17:07 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Let's call it what it is: Climate Immorality. Now say a Dozen Hail Marys and six Our Fathers.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Galileo was a heliocentric kind of guy. A geocentric “denier” so to speak. The consensus was wrong them and is wrong now. And the Church is once again on the wrong side of the argument.


136 posted on 06/18/2015 3:17:52 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: miss marmelstein

And yet, you did. And you simply ignored the part you couldn’t address, and I noted your non-reply. Which continues.


137 posted on 06/18/2015 3:18:33 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Let's call it what it is: Climate Immorality. Now say a Dozen Hail Marys and six Our Fathers.)
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To: miss marmelstein
All of his work was done through the Catholic Church.

If by done, you mean "suppressed."

138 posted on 06/18/2015 3:20:27 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Let's call it what it is: Climate Immorality. Now say a Dozen Hail Marys and six Our Fathers.)
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To: jwalsh07

Can you translate that into English?

Are you talking about global warming or has the Pope just claimed that the sun revolves around the earth?


139 posted on 06/18/2015 3:22:17 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: ansel12

And if I run into someone who believes any liberal crap-at Mass, a picnic or other activity, I will do my best to show them how wrong they are-I’m willing to do my part to change their thinking.


140 posted on 06/18/2015 3:24:12 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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