Posted on 06/15/2015 11:43:39 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper
The 192-page document is Pope Francis' first major teaching letter on climate change and its effects on the planet's poor
Italian Magazine L’Espresso leaked Pope Francis’ hotly anticipated encyclical on climate change on its website on Monday, breaking an embargo on the document set for Thursday.
(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...
Are you expecting any 180 degree reversals in position between now and it's official release?
I just read through the text (Italian) quickly. The document is 192 pages long, but that’s because the folio is an odd shape, about 8 X 5 inches. Specific discussion of Climate Change takes up maybe 3 pages, but is mentioned in passing in other sections. Much longer is the section on Pollution of soil, waterways, oceans, and human and animal habitats.
Some themes: a) The planet is being harmed by irresponsible humans; b) this harm is felt mostly by the poor and marginalized; c) there is a reason why the Catholic Church has the right to speak on this matter, and this right is guided by revelation; d) the solutions to these harms to the planet require regional, continental, and sopra-national efforts.
not below far enough
I’m sure it was all lost in translation.
This should get interesting.
Thank you. I think the thing that has everyone worried is that he obviously sees some international entity with enforcement powers as the solution to all problems.
All I know is what the press has been feeding us, which is usually less than accurate. Who knows? The thing might be full of hogwash, or it might just be a pastoral commentary on protecting the environment. I don’t know.
Adds new meaning to the phrase “Holy Shite”!
Not if you’re standing on a copy of the encyclical.
When you consider that one of Pope Benedict's encyclicals stated that (and I quote)
I think you can understand the worry.In the face of the unrelenting growth of global interdependence, there is a strongly felt need, even in the midst of a global recession, for a reform of the United Nations Organization, and likewise of economic institutions and international finance, so that the concept of the family of nations can acquire real teeth.
-- Paragraph 67 of Caritas in Veritate, from the thread Encycli-bites for reading “Caritas in veritate”
Geez...I really can’t wait to see what this moron has to say now. Other than obama I can’t think of any other leader for whom I’ve felt such loathing and contempt.
Seriously? You find Bergoglio more loathsome than these?
OK ...
Popes getting right under the sheets with the formation of a ‘Constitution’ that trancends the UN......wake up catholics....your Pope is commiting adulty against you....
To deal with climate issues, he has also called for an “Earth Constitution that would transcend the UN Charter” along with the creation of a “Global Council…elected by all the people on Earth” and a “Planetary Court..a transnational legal body open to appeals from everybody, especially with respect to violations of the Earth Constitution.”
“Except that it isn’t. It is a draft, and incomplete.”
Yeah but we’ll get the gist of it (if you can read Italian).
“Leonid Brezhnev? Jimmy Carter? Mikhail Gorbachev? Kofi Anan? Idi Amin Dada? Mao Tse Tung? Pol Pot? Bokassa? Ruholla Khomeini? Ho Chi Minh? Bill Clinton? Winnie Mandela? Saddam Hussein?”
Nice listing of heroes of the left.
Again, I will wait until the final document is released.
This is all about wealth redistribution. Climate change is the vehicle.
He's not, but when it comes out he'll get off the whole "it's a draft thing" and move on to "It was mistranslated."
That's my thought. Also, there's a supposed claim in the encyclical that 'studies' show this climate change position to be true.
I do think those relevant studies should be made public, so the rest of us can determine if these are adequate studies and that they've been properly interpreted. After all, the Vatican is not a science department.
Also, the part that this teaching will be elevated to the magisterium suggests it is a teaching that cannot be ignored (or even protested?).
I cannot emphasize how much I think this to be a mistake given the fluid nature of this area of study.
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