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BIKER TRUTHERS EMERGE CALLING WACO SHOOTOUT A ‘POLICE MASSACRE’
BREITBART BIG GOVERNMENT ^ | MAY 19, 2015 | LEE STRANAHAN

Posted on 05/19/2015 11:59:21 AM PDT by onyx

A website widely read by bikers called “The Aging Rebel” has published an alternative account of what happened during Sunday’s bloody shootout in Waco, Texas. The article titled The Waco Police Massacre brings out a number of details not previously published and also presents the controversial theory that event was essentially a police ambush.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 1percenters; agingrebel; bikers; copcycle; ihatecops; texas; tinfoiledagain; twinpeaks; waco; wacotexas
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To: Mariner
....”Then I saw how things are done in that world”...

Unfortunately that ‘IS’ the World we live in at every level...not just the police dept’s...but politics, corporations, businesses, the educational system. etc. etc. Corruption is everywhere in one form or another.

Cops are not social workers, nor psychiatrists....they're cops and they go after criminals....they are trained to do so regardless of how we want to perceive their jobs, or in what circumstances. Additionally they know a whole lot more about the thugs etc. on the streets than we do in an event that makes the press....and suddenly everyone wants to know if the police were "fair" or not. I honestly don't look at police to be fair...I expect them to do the job they have to do...and if someone gets his toes stepped on while they're doing so then too bad.

221 posted on 05/19/2015 6:52:36 PM PDT by caww
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To: Smokin' Joe

All the dead were both....google the deaths...it’s there.


222 posted on 05/19/2015 6:55:32 PM PDT by caww
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To: Mariner

In many Texas towns, as well as certain other states, the lawman in charge decided what did and did not go on within their city limits. They were a law unto themselves, and remained so as long as the citizenry approved. They were often hardcases, but they kept crime to a minimum, if they weren’t corrupted and on the take. Strangers bringing trouble to a community were often in for a world of hurt.

That’s just the history. I heard endless stories from the old-timers, including my kin. And yeah, they would probably give both liberals and libertarians the vapors. I don’t know why some people think we were always this orderly republic, dotting the “i’s” and crossing the “t’s” on all matters Constitutional, like some 1950’s school educational film on civics.


223 posted on 05/19/2015 7:01:23 PM PDT by greene66
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To: caww; Mariner
Cops are not social workers, nor psychiatrists....they're cops and they go after criminals....they are trained to do so regardless of how we want to perceive their jobs, or in what circumstances.

Well, the cops go after criminals, unless the criminals are of The Owners Class, like Hillary Clinton or Lois Lerner, who both committed a truckload of felonies...

Of course, I understand that arresting either of those two would make one "fear for one's pension"...

224 posted on 05/19/2015 7:01:34 PM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: caww; Travis McGee; CatherineofAragon; Squantos; Rodamala; CivilWarBrewing; Salamander; Pelham

You and desert RINO both think it’s fine for LEOs to mow down outlaw bikers cause they are well outlaws

Ok

I’ll bite

Tell me how many times you were scared for your car to break down in outlaw bikerville or how many cops and civilians can you name murdered by outlaw bikers. I would imagine there are a few over the past 70 years

So line them in a ditch like goober RINO sez and massacre them cause it’s ok. For the common good and all

Now forget outlaw motorcycle lads

Let’s look at colored people in America

They have corrupted our urban areas to the core

They rape and assault our women at rates many multiples of their proportion

They kill cops at same rate

They have murdered 40-200 times the number of whites as any other comparable murder rate

And they have stunk up our music by and large since hip hops advent

So by your logic we should round up at least 4-5 million young black male lawbreakers and murder them

You could toss a fair number of latino gangster types in that ditch too

Do you have the balls to propose that or do you and goofball just have level of murderous ire for bad behaving WHITE BOYS

I’ll bet money for Mr Thompson if I scan your posting history I’ll find boot licking and maybe south bashing if I’m lucky

I want to go on record not supporting the cops murdering law breakers of any color for preventative measures this side of ISIS

That’s a dark road regardless of what I think of the target

So...,you gonna pony up and advocate depopulating errant negroes same as outlaw bikers

Or did you simply let your mouth overload your brain

I remember you but I can’t recall right now

I’m in the el baño. That’s tub for you non bandidos out there. Lol

Don’t have time to research you just yet

RINO always loves hisself some law dogs so I ain’t surprised

PS. If true 8 Cossacks dead and one Frito then maybe my first hunch was right and it’s yet another Don’t mess with Bandidos lesson for the kids

I would much prefer that

Yes they are overcharged and over bonded By a simple JP

THAT WILL COLLAPSE

Freepers never fail to entertain but when the shooting starts are you gonna demand that Bandido or Hells Angel vacate your foxhole

Lol

Nah. Yall be hiding behind his 300 lbs


225 posted on 05/19/2015 7:02:16 PM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: lapsus calami

I know how the cut system works

Been around them all my life

Got an Outlaw MC in my employ as I type you

Outlaws are the Middle TN MC. 1%Club

Like Bandidos in Tejas

Top notch and loyal

I’m calling him and his buddies if I feel threatened

I’m gonna out them but we have a few here on this very forum and their families

I’m ambivalent

I’m not big on being in a group beyond the family unit myself but I won’t condemn them all like hardtalk here died


226 posted on 05/19/2015 7:07:35 PM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: wardaddy
So, we got ATF there, and we got McLennan County seizing the motorcycles for civil forfeiture.

ATF felons and local farce enlawment piracy. What's not to like? LOL! :)

227 posted on 05/19/2015 7:15:15 PM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

All good Slim !!

Mans gotta know his limitations.....:o)


228 posted on 05/19/2015 7:23:13 PM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: wardaddy

...”You and desert RINO both think it’s fine for LEOs to mow down outlaw bikers cause they are well outlaws”....

I did not say that...you said that... so stop putting words out there I never said.

All the rest of your post is your own ranting. Maybe you feel better for doing so.


229 posted on 05/19/2015 7:31:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww; wardaddy

No, you didn’t use those exact words.

However, those are your exact sentiments.

I see you didn’t respond to the rest of wardaddy’s post.

Kind of scary when someone shows you exactly what you’re advocating for.


230 posted on 05/19/2015 7:37:49 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Never underestimate the power of government to distort markets)
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To: kiryandil
Your comparison needs some real refinement. Take a look at the Governance of our Representatives in Government, who is responsible for bringing actions against the likes of Clintons and Lois Lerner and their kind...it sure isn't the local cops........Criminal gang Bikers in a war among their gangs are under the jurisdiction of police
231 posted on 05/19/2015 7:38:48 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww; Pelham; CatherineofAragon

Don’t be huffy

Own what you write

Everyone here seen it

“I HAVE NO PROBLEM IF IT WAS OR WAS NOT AN AMBUSH”

Your words mister

Now be big feller and own them

Do you feel the same about the millions of outlaw negroes we all contend with

Maybe up there in Dutch country it’s not an issue but down here they are a really big problem

Whereas biker gangs generally are not

I was right about you wasn’t i

I got a nose for it I swunny


232 posted on 05/19/2015 7:40:52 PM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: Norseman

The left wants to eliminate local law enforcement and establish federal police that answer only to DC. The British were genius in creating the sheriff/local police system as a bulwark against centralized control of law enforcement that leads to tyranny.

Not buying any of this anti-police BS.


233 posted on 05/19/2015 7:42:12 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: stylin_geek

“I HAVE NO PROBLEM IF IT WAS OR WAS NOT AN AMBUSH

....aw shucks he was just foolin...he don’t mean no harm by none of it

/s


234 posted on 05/19/2015 7:44:08 PM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: wardaddy

It would be an ambush if nothing happened at all first right?
Wasn’t this more like taking care of business before near by innocents got hurt or worse?
Plus IMO the police don’t get paid to act second because they want to go home alive.


235 posted on 05/19/2015 7:46:09 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: caww; wardaddy
Your comparison needs some real refinement. Take a look at the Governance of our Representatives in Government, who is responsible for bringing actions against the likes of Clintons and Lois Lerner and their kind...it sure isn't the local cops........Criminal gang Bikers in a war among their gangs are under the jurisdiction of police

Clinton and Lerner are "open and notorious" criminals, as you claim these motorcycle people are.

Former pantload president Clinton was also an "open and notorious" criminal, who committed perjury in the face of a Federal judge.

How many years did he spend in prison, again?

I don't do the whole "selective law enforcement" thingee.

And FURTHERMORE - there were also "open and notorious" unprosecuted felons from the ATF there, too.

236 posted on 05/19/2015 8:08:47 PM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: stylin_geek
Of course I'm not responding to his rants....it's ranting....always best to leave people alone who bring everything up but the kitchen sink.

My statement is clear...I have no problem with police doing whatever they need to do with criminal elements amassing at a public restaurant... who were not gathered there to have tea and cookies ....and the cops weren't there to serve it.

These Biker gangs that showed are criminal organizations practicing everything from racketeering to rape, drugs, theft, prostitution, murder and extortion.. and a host of other criminal activity against each other and any they choose to dump on outside the organizations....no different then the Mafia gangs except they ride bikes.

237 posted on 05/19/2015 8:12:53 PM PDT by caww
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To: A CA Guy; wardaddy
It would be an ambush if nothing happened at all first right? Wasn’t this more like taking care of business before near by innocents got hurt or worse? Plus IMO the police don’t get paid to act second because they want to go home alive.

We don't know where the undercover government agents were in the gathered motorcycle crowd.

And we don't know what they were up to.

And, we don't know the size of the perforations in the dead guys.

I'm willing to wait till the silt settles.

238 posted on 05/19/2015 8:14:57 PM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: caww; stylin_geek
My statement is clear...I have no problem with police doing whatever they need to do with criminal elements amassing at a public restaurant... who were not gathered there to have tea and cookies ....and the cops weren't there to serve it.

What about the undercover police who were wearing gang colors?

239 posted on 05/19/2015 8:17:11 PM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: kiryandil

This is about biker gangs and the police who broke up their war in a public place.

There are plenty of threads on the Clintons corruption and who is responsible for making sure they pay for their crimes. You’re argument is with our Governance who have avoided for years going after them.....has nothing to do with bikers and cops at this event.


240 posted on 05/19/2015 8:18:48 PM PDT by caww
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