9/11 COVER-UP?

Facebook account of Shepard Smith ^ | April 13, 2015 150413 | Shepard Smith

[Arthur McGowan]

9/11 COVER-UP? The latest claim isn’t from conspiracy theorists--it’s from a former top US Senator. He says documents prove Saudi Arabia helped pull off the attacks, and that the FBI hid the truth. Shep has details:

[Cronos]

DO: Think Iran on steroids.

Iran doesn't sponsor Anti-Western or anti-Christian terrorism anyway near the Saudis do already. In fact in Iran, Christians can live and worship peacefully (as can Jews) -- quite unlike the Sunni lands

[Cronos]

DO: As I said before, the King disburses funds to his family. Some of those funds wind up in places the king probably wishes they wouldn’t. Unfortunately, the Islamic sect wants it there.

The King wants it -- the money going to madrassas or Sunni terrorists go to those promoting the Salafis/Wahabbi philosophy. So, whether it goes to Salafist or the Deobandi school or hard-core Wahabbis (the philosophy of these three are more or less the same), it's by the will of the Saud dynasty.

[DoughtyOne]

That is probably true. None the less, if the current government of Saudi Arabia changes hands and becomes a government ruled like Iran with Clerics in charge, I still think it will be far worse than Iran.

You may actually agree with that. Perhaps not. Take care.

[DoughtyOne]

I’m not buying that the Saudi Leadership wanted or arranged 09/11. Perhaps that’s not where you were headed. Not trying to put words in your mouth.

[Cronos]

DO: One of these days big changes will come to Saudi Arabia. When it does, those who have championed change there for decades are going to get a big surprise.....

Those Islamic people are actually tame by Wahabbi standards. They despise the U. S. When there is no king to hold them back, look out.

they would start fighting each other.

Let's look at the following maps

First, the dispersal of Sunnis and Shias and the various groupings of them

25% of Saudi citizens are Shia - twelvers or Zayyidi or Ismaili

• Now the twelvers Shias (who ay the fist twelve Imams, including the first 4 Sunni Caliphs) were good guys are the majority in Iran, but are not the same as the Ismailis or Zayyidis
• Zayyidis are closer to the Hanafi school of Sunni islam than they are to Twelvers -- they are called Houthis now by the Western Media
• ismailies follow the Aga Khan and are related to Bohris and Syedni Bohris -- the latter have their own heriditary Syedni leading them.

Now the Twelvers are the majority in the oil based provinces. And the Ismailis despise the Saudis for having bulldozed the graves of the early Caliphs and of Mohammad's wife Aisha -- they even wanted to destroy the grave of Mohammad. This also pissed off the Sufi school of Sunnis -- these revere "saints" -- whose tombs were destroyed by Wahabbis

you overlay this with the various tribes and clans etc.

And you see that the arabs would be just as they were before Lawrence of Arabia came and united them (remembe the movie when lawrence says "if the Arabs do not unite they will always be a divided and weak people")

So, DoughtyOne, if there is no Saudi king, expect a group of various emirates springing up -- some Sunni hanafi, some Sunni Wahabbi, sone Sufi-Sunni, Some Ismaili, some zayyidi, some Twelver shia and even some Ibadi in the east (or they would join with Oman)

[Cronos]

To your post 145:About Saddam testing the US prior to 9/11 — he was severely weakened

[Cronos]

After Afghanistan, the USA should have invaded Pakistan, taken their nukes away and killed Bin Laden there

[Cronos]

Depends on what you mean by Saudi leadership. They have thousands of princes. The rule is not only by the 90 year old king

[Cronos]

DO: . None the less, if the current government of Saudi Arabia changes hands and becomes a government ruled like Iran with Clerics in charge, I still think it will be far worse than Iran.

It already IS a government with clerics in charge and has been since 1918.

[Cronos]

Cronos, it seems to me that if you take the capital of Saudi Arabia, you become the defacto government those tribes still answer to.

No. If you take Mecca and Medina then you have influence over the Islamic world, but no, you don't rule over the other tribes in Arabia

Riyadh was only the capital of the peninsula when the Sauds who come from Riyadh, conquered the other emirates around the Arabian peninsula. It was a s***-hole before.

[HLPhat]

>>Yawn... Stretch... Doesn’t 60 Minutes come on in CA in about a half hour?

I dunno. Who’s winning American Idolatry and Dancing with the Perverts in between commercials for Viagra, Sleeping Pills, and Depends this week?

[Theophilus]

This is eminently believable.

9/11 was openly and enthusiastically celebrated by upper class people in Saudi Arabia who worked with and expressed ostensible friendship with American defense contractors on a daily basis. I know a guy who observed it first hand. In response, he removed his family from SA after having lived and prospered there for many years.

[dp0622]

I HATE to agree with those sick animal brain diseased miscreant sodomites at Kos, but Bush and Cheney belong in prison. They sol us out those @#@#$s, to protect Saudi Arabia they puled the best propaganda act since Goebbels in tricking us into believing Saddam was some kind of threat. I know some freepers think he was but he was NOT. He was a foil to Iran, had no reactors for nukes. Couldn’t defeat Iran in ten years!! he was Kim Jong without the nukes and maybe a the better military.
I HATE that the protestors around the world were right about that war (But in truth they would have hated any attempt by America to defend itself) and I hate that we didn’t level Saudi Arabia an I HATE that I was dragged along by peer pressure and blindness to support the war. Our soldiers are suffering from that nonsense. I have brain injury and it is horrifying and theirs are much worse. Much much worse!!! How does GW sleep at night knowing all these Christians are being slaughtered as a result of him getting id of the secular tyrants that crushed the fanatics. I know, the Kurds the Kurds, but the no fly zone was protecting them and could have gone on foreve.

[MHGinTN]

If one follows the trail of money and criminal schemes about to be opened up (World Com, Global Crossing, and ENRON), it is not outlandish to see huge motives for 911. The dtat for those those revelations was housed in building seven.

Add the birth of the 'security state' which has been constructed since 911 and the motives become even more compelling.

More than two-hundred billion in bonds were scheduled to come due on 9/12. The offices for those bond debentures was where the first plane hit.

More than one-hundred billion in gold bullion was located in the tower basement, gold which was wiped off the books with 911 and has probably been re-hypothcated for 'reserve' banking games internationally.

Building seven house the offices where ALL the material for the prosecution of those three scandals were in the preparation stages, as well as CIA offices and a 'command center' for overseeing future terrorist acts against New York.

These data points do not point to the Saudis or the Israelis, they point to the oligarchy now instituting their technocratic rule over US and the worlds at large, if they can accomplish it with yet another staged event of global ramifications. [Watch the propaganda flowing over the Ukraine crisis, which the CIA instituted in order to leverage Putin if they could and indirectly the European nations now dancing with the BRICSA nations.]

It does no good to try and point fingers at which cabal until The People open their eyes and see what actually happened to those buildings.

When people started to question openly what the government avoided in the 911 report --that building seven came down in a controlled demolition hours afteer the attacks on the towers, as proven on world-wide video, yet the government through its sycophantic media led the people to believe it fell due to fires which raged for five hours after things slammed into the twin towers-- well then the government conveniently issued a different explanation which still contradicted what the man who leased the complex said twice on live TV (Larry Silverstein), that the decision was made to 'pull the building'.

Now, more than a decade later, a significant number of airline and military pilots are proclaiming openly that the maneuvers made that day by inexperienced pilots were not possible in the airframes claimed to have been flown into the towers and the Pentagon (which impact by the way happened to coincide with the offices supposedly trying to find the 2 plus trillion dollars in miliatry spending missing on the books).

A woman who spent 30 years as a flight attendant with various airlines (Rebekah Roth), even working after 911, has come forward to explain why the phone calls supposedly made from planes in flight could not have been made and she has even uncovered the cell tower calls from at least two of the supposed destroyer planes came through, such that she has located a likely place the planes were taken when they 'cooperated in a national drill' on 911.

No, 911 did not happen the way the great lie poses it. That is now certain by just looking at the massive amount of contradictory data compiled by people who are not truther nuts (like airline pilots and fighter pilots and Physicists and personnel familiar with the intimate details of flight crews).

That the great lie is still so firmly embedded in the minds of so many usually rational people testifies to how effect a psy-op and ridiule campaign can be in keeping people from thinking for themselves.

[dp0622]

great but disturbing read. But you agree that the planes hit the buildings right. I saw it while on my commute to Manhattan. The rest I will have to do some heavy research into. Sine you sound well read, have you ever read the story that the Bushes and Hinckley’s were good friends and Reagan was not doing what they wanted regarding oil contracts in Texas and they had their son try to kill him? sounds nonsensical but there was a report on channel seven news that mentioned the connection that the Bushes and Hinckley’s had and had dinner two nights before but then he shut up. I know it sounds absurd lol but it is out thee and not only by insane websites.

[ek_hornbeck]

That is probably true. None the less, if the current government of Saudi Arabia changes hands and becomes a government ruled like Iran with Clerics in charge, I still think it will be far worse than Iran.

The clerics are already basically in charge of Saudi Arabia. The Saudi Royals have to pay them tribute in exchange for the cleric's approval and support. Support of the mullahs is all that keeps the royals in power. They know full well that as soon as the money stops flowing, the clerics will declare the royals apostate, and the House of Saud will come crashing down.

Now, where does all of that money go once the royals have paid their tribute to the clerics? Into the pockets of ISIS, Al Qaeda, Boku Haram, and every other Wahhabi jihadist movement on the planet. It doesn't matter that the Saudi Royals "oppose" Al Quaeda or ISIS (and they don't oppose them nearly as much as they do any Shi'ite movement). It's Saudi money that made these organizations possible.

[laplata]

“No, 911 did not happen the way the great lie poses it”.

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That’s the truth.

Thank you.

[DoughtyOne]

Nice post with your graphics and all.

What’s your take on the stability of this situation, in-fighting and all?

Would there be endless turmoil?

[DoughtyOne]

Yes, in some ways I agree. The real wild card was if he had WMDs ready to go. Would he use them internally, externally?

We know now that he opted to move them out of country or hide them. We didn’t know that then.

[DoughtyOne]

Well then my perception is off, but I have never seen the Saudi government display the type of activity Iran has, with clerics spouting off.