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Reconsidering My August Post on Ferguson and ‘Conflicting Accounts’ (NYT's public editor)
New York Slimes ^ | March 23, 2015 | Margaret Sullivan

Posted on 03/23/2015 9:41:39 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

In the heat of a very hot news moment last summer, I criticized a Times story about the shooting death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo.

Now, with the benefit of hindsight, I want to acknowledge that I misjudged an important element of that story.

(Excerpt) Read more at publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ferguson; media; msm; newyorktimes

1 posted on 03/23/2015 9:41:39 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

the heat of a very hot news moment

a crystalinne veiw...in hindsight... of the adolescant approach to urinalism...


2 posted on 03/23/2015 9:43:11 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Liberals hate to apologize. She must have had severe cramps in her hands as she was typing this.


3 posted on 03/23/2015 9:44:15 AM PDT by BigEdLB (We're experienceing the rule of a Roman Emperor, Barack I)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

How about a little more of a summary for those of us who wish not to give the NYTimes a site hit.


4 posted on 03/23/2015 9:45:14 AM PDT by Obadiah (Wind turbines, aka: bird choppers, cause earthquakes due to their harmonic frequencies.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So was she wrong before and right now? Right then but wrong now?

Since this is the Slimes, it’s a safe bet she was WRONG then and WRONG now.

Presstitutes never get it.


5 posted on 03/23/2015 9:45:41 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

HUH? Trying to read the “enlightened” mx. sullivan was an effort to say the least. From her writing, it’s obvious that she is SOOOOOOO much smarter than us dimwits. (sarc req’d?)


6 posted on 03/23/2015 9:46:24 AM PDT by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I was losing sleep over this. /s


7 posted on 03/23/2015 9:47:23 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hilarious.

What a circuitous way to admit to an enthusiastic embrace and subsequent expansion and distribution of a malicious, false narrative.

Short version for the hard-of-reading: WE CHOSE TO LIE, AND SOUGHT TO DISTRIBUTE THAT LIE AS WIDELY AND RAPIDLY AS POSSIBLE.


8 posted on 03/23/2015 9:56:44 AM PDT by doyle
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Here's what I think is her main point.

"My post accused The Times of false balance. In fact, as the story’s editor, James Dao, said at the time, reporters and editors were making an effort to get at all sides of a fast-moving story. He told me that “the reporting gives some insight into how law enforcement is viewing this case — this is what they say they’ve got.” He was right.

In retrospect, it’s clear to me that including that information wasn’t false balance. It was an effort to get both sides.

She defends the efforts of the media to get all sides in a fast moving story, and I can tell her that that if they are trying for accuracy, her media friends might as well look for the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.

Years ago, I had a conversation with a homicide detective who worked for a large department. He said that in some shootings in the black community, you will get a lot of emotion and false information. But after a few days when things calm down, the truth begins to surface. And this is why the media will never initially get it right. They are so obsessed in getting the story, they will always get distortions, and they will then publish or broadcast those distortions, until finally, after a period of time, the truth emerges.

9 posted on 03/23/2015 10:04:22 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
But I want to go further now and say that what I wrote was substantially flawed.

Yeah..no harm..no foul..

10 posted on 03/23/2015 10:05:42 AM PDT by BerniesFriend (Sarah Palin-"Lord knows she's attractive" says bitter Andrea Mitchell and the rest of the MSM)
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To: Enterprise

“He said that in some shootings in the black community, you will get a lot of emotion and false information. But after a few days when things calm down, the truth begins to surface. And this is why the media will never initially get it right.”

One of the many cool things about the true-crime TV show “The First 48” is that it disproves the myth that people from poor black neighborhoods clam up and won’t help homicide detectives. In point of fact, most of the homicides are solved with a combination of footage from inexpensive ubiquitous security cameras and tips and information from folks who saw the murder or know something about it.


11 posted on 03/23/2015 10:13:43 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Obadiah
How about a little more of a summary for those of us who wish not to give the NYTimes a site hit.

She had objected to the Times story last August which used unnamed sources to refute the "Hands up don't shoot" narrative. Now she is saying it may have been correct to use those sources.

12 posted on 03/23/2015 10:22:48 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarca only ones we can gesm or criticism...or do.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What’s important is to get the narrative out there, get people outraged, make sure the damage is done. Corrections later don’t really matter.


13 posted on 03/23/2015 10:26:10 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
What's her motive here?

I don't believe she has any moral values, so, it must be the old “FOLLOW THE MONEY”.

How is she getting money out of this non-apology apology?

14 posted on 03/23/2015 10:32:04 AM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: catnipman

That’s so true. Most times in the beginning, the police department officials simply can NOT issue a statement other than the investigation is ongoing, but that won’t stop the media from holding their fire because in situations like we witnessed in Ferguson, the media will gravitate to people who make baseless and highly inflammatory accusations. Experienced investigators know that accurate witnesses will not be heard from during the initial chaos. It takes a few days.


15 posted on 03/23/2015 10:32:18 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Starstruck

Thanks!


16 posted on 03/23/2015 11:32:33 AM PDT by Obadiah (Wind turbines, aka: bird choppers, cause earthquakes due to their harmonic frequencies.)
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To: rktman

Paul Moore: It must be nice to always believe you know better, to always think you’re the smartest person in the room.

Jane Craig: No. It’s awful.

—Broadcast News


17 posted on 03/23/2015 11:51:37 AM PDT by sparklite2
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To: donna

The NYT is trying to cover their butt against $$$ lawsuits.


18 posted on 03/23/2015 11:54:43 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

I bet you’re right.


19 posted on 03/23/2015 2:50:43 PM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: donna

Well, there are dead LEOs as a result of the enemedia, DOJ, 0bama, Sharpton, Farrakhan, etc.

People’s businesses and lives, ruined.

Anthony Shahid, Dorian Johnson, and the Brown family should be brought up on charges, for incitement to riot, and, for accessory to murder. As should the enemedia; there was no absence of malice there.


20 posted on 03/23/2015 3:04:35 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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