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Ben Carson Is Fighting a Culture War: His remarks on homosexuality more likely to help than hurt
The Atlantic ^ | 03/07/2015 | Peter Beinert

Posted on 03/07/2015 6:17:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind

You might think Ben Carson’s recent comments suggesting that prison turns people gay have hurt his presidential campaign. I don’t buy it. In fact, I suspect they’ll improve his chances.

First, Carson’s supporters agree with what he said. According to a March 2014 Washington Post poll, 48 percent of conservative Republicans think being gay is something you choose while only 39 percent disagree. If you polled the activists on the Christian-right most likely to back Carson’s campaign, that figure would probably be even more lopsided.

Second, it won’t exactly shock Carson’s backers to hear that he’s anti-gay. Last March, Carson made headlines for linking “gays” to members of NAMBLA, the man/boy love society, and to “people who believe in bestiality.” Liberals pounced. But there’s no evidence Carson’s comments hurt his nascent presidential campaign. In fact, polls in key primary states regularly show Carson running ahead of candidates like Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, and Rick Perry, who the press takes more seriously.

Carson’s anti-gay reputation may hurt him among Republican elites, which could help explain why, after his prison comment, he has now backtracked. But among the hard-right activists he’s courting, Carson’s ability to offend is key to his appeal.

Being politically incorrect is a big part of Carson’s brand. In his 2009 book, The Big Picture, Carson argues that the “obsession with politically correct speech” has “reduced the quality of meaningful dialogue” and “discourages honesty.” And he claims that the two issues on which “political correctness” takes the greatest toll are abortion and gay rights.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; bencarson; culturewars; election2016; homosexualagenda; homosexuality
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To: Texas Eagle

The Atlantic wants Carson to stay in the race so that they can beat their chests and shout about how the Republicans are full of witchcraft and witch doctors. The motives of a leftist are all about making sure that their stereotypes of those who disagree with them have a straw person to keep it alive. That being said, the questions asked to Carson were a bait and trap anyways.


21 posted on 03/07/2015 7:42:18 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: savagesusie

The only interesting take I see nowadays is that it’s okay to blame something else for programming your behavior rather than own up to your responsibility for it. They even justified incest between a daughter and her biological father. I don’t care if something makes your father attractive to you, don’t do it with him. I just can’t understand how the media guys make excuses for that.


22 posted on 03/07/2015 7:45:40 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Westbrook

If we ever want candidates who are truly citizens from the real world, we need to back off and expect them to stumble.

Otherwise, you are going to get slicked up, well groomed packaged performers as candidates, who may tickle your ears, snow your vanity and generally make you giddy, but who are political hacks, betrayers and who have perfected the LIE.

Carson deserves some space. He is very honest and plain spoken and does not want one spear in the chest to knock him out this soon. He wants to recover and to be able to create a more expansive answer to a question meant to knock him out.


23 posted on 03/07/2015 7:52:33 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: CitizenUSA

Excellent. Simple. And, true.


24 posted on 03/07/2015 7:53:57 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: SeekAndFind
All foretold in Romans 1:22-32 and it's not likely to get better until it gets worse...
Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality,wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving,unmerciful;

who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

Here we humans are stuck between angels and animals, between Heaven and hell and either acting out with pride or looking up with humility and gratitude.

Choose wisely.

25 posted on 03/07/2015 8:26:52 AM PST by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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To: norwaypinesavage
Truth is truth

Truth is truth. Bears repeating. Truth is. Truth is what it is, and I don't need "depends what is is". It is.

FMCDH(BITS)

26 posted on 03/07/2015 8:43:04 AM PST by nothingnew (Hemmer and MacCullum are the worst on FNC)
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To: RitaOK

Doesn’t anybody have any guts anymore?

Reagan had guts and never apologized for the TRUTH.


27 posted on 03/07/2015 9:47:40 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: SeekAndFind
Second, it won’t exactly shock Carson’s backers to hear that he’s anti-gay.

The correct choice is (1) pro-God or (2) anti-God.

The false meme of "anti-gay" is a distraction from leftists who blatantly reject God and His morals.

28 posted on 03/07/2015 9:53:35 AM PST by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: miss marmelstein

I would rather conservative candidates pick up the Bible when trying to decide how to handle gotcha questions rather than go to homosexual-promoting websites. They should have the attitude “Love the sinner but hate the sin”

The left gay mafia is very shrewd in pushing their agenda. You see how there is very little coverage of the “3-way gay marriage” in Thailand. That is because they feel America isn’t quite ready for gay polygamy. But believe me, that will be next along with bestiality.


29 posted on 03/07/2015 10:53:58 AM PST by ClarenceThomasfan (My dream ticket is Cruz/Rubio 2016)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan

Gay Patriot is a conservative website and they are very shrewd in fighting the left gay agenda.

I read many books; not just the bible.


30 posted on 03/07/2015 11:02:09 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Homosexuality is a choice, and where not a choice it is a disease that compromises an individuals ability to preform one of the essence functions of life, Namely procreate.

This is an ill-refutable scientific fact, that even liberal ‘scientist’ struggle to ignore, cover up, or deny.

We should never carry their lies for them. That does not however mean that we are attacking the victims as they almost always claim we are.

The dirty little truth that they seem to hasty ignore is that nobody who suffers from this diseases is being denied the ability to enter the convent & contract of marriage on that account.

Nor are any of theses people asking for that convent which they already have access to, instead they want something entirely different with the same ‘benefits’ and specifically name as if to confuse not only the law but the people as well.

When you think about this request its really not much different legally than to demand that your cell phone or employment contract be declare a mortgage with the same qualities and tax benefits tho they are very different kinds of contracts, even if they do share a few things in common. It is a nonsensical request in truth built upon a faulty understanding of the nature of said contracts.

Yet our elustriously confusing and ever contracting ‘legal community’ has somehow convinced themselves that they are the same on the grounds that they share a few qualities in common. Well frankly the same could be said of almost any contract, are the federal employees going to declare that they all have the same clauses, names, terms, and benefits?

Indeed the effect of such a deceleration would be to destroy federal Government support of contract law and probably most of our economy along with. Why should abolition of marriage in overwriting it’s essence attributes be any different to family over the long run?


31 posted on 03/07/2015 11:08:00 AM PST by Monorprise
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To: RitaOK

“If we ever want candidates who are truly citizens from the real world, we need to back off and expect them to stumble.”

You know your right and we will know soon enough when he clarifies his position.

Its ok to not be ok, its not ok to stay that way.


32 posted on 03/07/2015 11:25:05 AM PST by Monorprise
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To: I want the USA back

Homosexuality is genetic and determined, there is nothing that will change a person’s homosexuality, can’t be done, ever... If you try to Teach/treat a homosexual not to be homosexual you damage their psyche in horrible ways!

If, however, you are part of the 98% who presumably are genetically determined heterosexuals and some substantial percentage which is revolted by homosexuality—presumably also a genetically determined trait, it is imperative that the government institute learning and educational programs to modify your genetically determined outlook of homosexuality!

Is this about right?


33 posted on 03/07/2015 3:02:49 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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