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NFL finds Patriots used underinflated footballs
Boston Globe ^ | 1-21-15 | Ben Volin

Posted on 01/21/2015 6:57:45 AM PST by Colehill1999

The Patriots used underinflated footballs on Sunday night.

The next question is how did it happen?

According to a National Football League letter about the investigation into the controversy that was shared with the Globe, the Patriots were informed that the league’s initial findings indicated that the game balls did not meet specifications. The league inspected each of the Patriots’ 12 game balls twice at halftime, using different pressure gauges, and found footballs that were not properly inflated.

According to ESPN, 11 of the 12 game balls were found to be underinflated by about 2 pounds each. The NFL specifications say they must be inflated to 12½ to 13½ pounds.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: againandagain; colts; deflategate; deflatriots; indiana; indianapolis; indianapoliscolts; newengland; newenglandpatriots; nfl; patriots; superbowl
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To: xp38
"The idea that each team supplies balls for when they are on offense is where this problem lies."

According to some (un-named) coaches - this is fairly common practice throughout football, that's why the NFL allows "team balls".

It's one of those nod-n-wink rules, nobody ever bitches about it - until the Colts were down by 28 points, that is.

A bush-league gripe if there ever was one - like Billy Martin's pine-tar complaint - normally a non-starter, but some losers (like teams and theri fans not going to the Super Bowl) are gonna' find something to whine about..

81 posted on 01/21/2015 7:38:18 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: kidd

But the Patriots are cheaters..... WAAAAHHHHH...

Only the Patriots cheat - didn’t you know that?

Not the sainted Broncos, or bite your tongue - the Packers or Cowboys....

What a bunch of crybabies out there.

Pats will beat the Seahawks convincingly.


82 posted on 01/21/2015 7:38:24 AM PST by CTyank
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To: discostu
So that brings up the question of if they messed with the balls before the inspection and the refs just missed it, or after the inspection and the league really is dumb for letting team officials handle the balls after inspection.

The answer is that the league is really that dumb. Team officials get the balls 2 hours and 15 minutes before the game.
83 posted on 01/21/2015 7:38:54 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Colehill1999

The Colts would have gotten their @sses handed to them regardless of the ball pressure. But I’m chuckling at the Freepers that want the Colts to be “given” a Superbowl slot because They “deserve” it and “haven’t been to the Superbowl in a long time”.

Next up on the FR: “Freepers support public schools’ policy on giving every child who plays a trophy.”


84 posted on 01/21/2015 7:39:22 AM PST by Seruzawa (All those memories will be lost,in time, like tears in rain.)
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To: Moonman62
I have never seen "the lower limit" in ANY of this controversy ... just .. "two lbs lower"

If I pump to the lower and the weather drops it a lb, the statement MIGHT be made two pounds lower IF I use the higher to base my statement

High end (but pumped to 1 lb lower end) minus a hypothetical 1 lb loss = 2 lb underinflated

85 posted on 01/21/2015 7:40:19 AM PST by knarf
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To: mmichaels1970

Not according to what former ref Gerry Austin said on ESPN a couple of hours ago.


86 posted on 01/21/2015 7:40:22 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Bellicheat cheating? No way.....Way!
87 posted on 01/21/2015 7:40:57 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: mmichaels1970
Team officials get the balls 2 hours and 15 minutes before the game.

No, the ball boys get the balls about 10 minutes before the game. They are not turned over to the teams.

88 posted on 01/21/2015 7:42:30 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Responsibility2nd
NFL finds Patriots AND COLTS used underinflated footballs

That would be even more incorrect, unless you count the one ball the Colts intercepted...which lead to this entire issue.
89 posted on 01/21/2015 7:43:36 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Pollster1

warm room and then took them outside early enough to cool off before the game, the balls would end up about 2 psi below the designated pressure.—

We can run the numbers:

P1 x V1 / T1 = P2 x V2 / T2

T is absolute temp
if 75 f inside
if 45 f outside
use P1 minimum of 12.5

Assume V is constant (probably not quite)

12.5 / (75+460) = P2 / (45+460)

P2 = 11.8

Looks like >2 psi means tampering


90 posted on 01/21/2015 7:44:18 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s /s /s /s /s, my replies are "liberally" sprinkled with them behind every word and letter.!)
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To: Bushbacker1

That is entirely possible and explains why the Refs didn’t catch it on inspection, why 11 out of 12 were under inflated and why only the Patriots side.

That said, after the Refs corrected it at the half, the Patriots put up 28 points and the Colts zippo. So if anything the Refs helped the Patriots.


91 posted on 01/21/2015 7:44:31 AM PST by sigzero
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To: CTyank

Interestingly enough, if there has been no under-inflation, would the INT by D’Qwell Jackson been dropped due to the ball bouncing from his hands? Did the Colts, statistically, benefit from such shenanigans? Maybe.

In the next round of contract negotiations, would Mr. Jackson point to his interception in the 2014-15 AFC Championship game as cause for a boost in pay?


92 posted on 01/21/2015 7:45:34 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Bushbacker1

Malfunctioning pressure gauge....

Not insignificant. Measuring the pressure will let some out.


93 posted on 01/21/2015 7:46:38 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s /s /s /s /s, my replies are "liberally" sprinkled with them behind every word and letter.!)
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To: mmichaels1970

And of course there’s nothing new about ball tampering:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/21/brad-johnson-paid-a-bribe-to-tamper-with-footballs-at-the-super-bowl/

Really the more we’re looking at the comments from other QBs the more this is a silly kerfuffle.


94 posted on 01/21/2015 7:46:51 AM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: Colehill1999

Colts: all 12 balls properly inflated

The article doesn’t say or even imply that the Colts balls were properly inflated.


95 posted on 01/21/2015 7:47:15 AM PST by Paisan
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To: sigzero

So if you cheat, but you still play well you didn’t cheat?


96 posted on 01/21/2015 7:49:48 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Straight Vermonter

For those who are interested here is the audio of former NFL ref Gerry Austin talking about how the balls are handled before a game etc.

http://t.co/GYwjBCerz5


97 posted on 01/21/2015 7:49:50 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Bkmrk


98 posted on 01/21/2015 7:51:02 AM PST by morphing libertarian (defund Obama care and amnesty. Impeach for Benghazi and IRS and fast and furious.)
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To: Colehill1999

99 posted on 01/21/2015 7:51:17 AM PST by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: discostu
Really the more we’re looking at the comments from other QBs the more this is a silly kerfuffle.

When you get caught, you get caught.

Belichick is like a spitball pitcher. If he were in baseball you could probably shake vaseline, a nail file, and some sandpaper out of his hoody.
100 posted on 01/21/2015 7:51:24 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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