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Jeb Bush Vs. Ted Cruz
Townhall ^ | December 24, 2014 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 12/23/2014 9:41:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Last week, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush announced his intention to "actively explore" a run for president. That announcement spurred spasms of joy in some segments of the Republican Party who have been itching for an effective counter to the enthusiasm of the grassroots right. Those Republicans -- largely coastal donors who scorn social conservatives as rubes, and shun the supposed fiscal extremism of the tea party -- have been searching for a candidate who will buck the base on immigration, who doesn't mind hand-in-glove corporatism, and who, most of all, feels the same way they do about the grassroots.

And Jeb Bush promises to fulfill all these criteria. He says he feels "a little out of step with my party" on immigration and recently said that illegal immigration wasn't a "felony" but an "act of love"; his support for Common Core has more than a whiff of cronyism to it; just weeks ago, he told The Wall Street Journal that he would be willing to "lose the primary to win the general without violating [his] principles."

This is the dirty secret of the modern Republican Party: For all the talk about grassroots exasperation with the Republican elites, it is the Republican elites who despise the grassroots. Republican elites do not believe in the dismantling of the welfare state; they believe in its maintenance. They do not believe in the unsophisticated free marketeering of the tea party; they believe in a strong government hand on the economic tiller, so long as that hand is benevolent toward their friends. They do not believe in small government; they believe in large government that serves their ends. If given the choice, a few would even select Hillary Clinton as president over Texas Senator Ted Cruz.

They stake their claim to leadership of the Republican Party on the nonsensical notion that they have a record of victory. Pointing to the dramatic implosions of candidates like Delaware's Christine O'Donnell, who primaried Mike Castle only to be blown out by Chris Coons in her Senatorial race, and Sharron Angle, who lost to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, establishment Republicans state that they -- and only they -- know how to win elections. They abide by "The Price Is Right" strategy for electoral victory: campaign just to the right of the Democratic candidate in the hopes that you will win everyone to that candidate's right. The magical middle, in this view, is where victory lies.

And so, in 2008, in an election in which Americans resonated to the theme of war weariness, Republicans establishment geniuses touted a Senator most famous for his foreign policy interventionism. In 2012, coming off an election in which Republicans won a stunning victory thanks to popular hatred of Obamacare, Republicans ran the only man in America outside of Barack Obama to implement Obamacare. Grassroots conservatives reluctantly went along with these nominees after failing to unify around an alternative.

Now, in 2016, when Americans have reacted with outrage to President Obama's executive amnesty, and when Hillary Clinton is likely to be the Democratic nominee, establishment Republicans want to run a man whose most famous position is warmth for illegal immigration and is famously chummy with the Clintons (he gave Hillary an award in 2013 for public service).

Why nominate this man? The most common explanation: His widely perceived alternative, grassroots favorite, Ted Cruz, cannot win. Cruz, establishment Republicans say, polarizes instead of unifying; he alienates rather than attracting. But that notion springs, once again, from "The Price Is Right" strategy: If the middle voter is your target, Cruz isn't your man. But the middle voter was Mitt Romney's target in 2012, and he got him -- Romney won independents 50-45, but lost the election by five million votes. The middle voter was John McCain's target, too -- so much so that McCain considered naming Democratic Senator Joe Lieberman as his running mate. He lost decisively, too.

Will Ted Cruz lose more decisively than either of his predecessors? That's a possibility. But margin of loss is significantly less important than the direction of the political narrative. Party insiders see the 1964 nomination of right-wing Barry Goldwater as a massive defeat. Those outside the party infrastructure see it for what it was: a ground shift in Republican politics that led to the rise of Ronald Reagan. Better to nominate someone who will change the conversation and lose than someone who will reinforce that the parties stand for the same tired politics of failure.

Or, perhaps, Cruz doesn't lose at all. Perhaps it turns out that voters are driven by vision and passion rather than bromides from the Yorks and Lancasters of American politics. Perhaps Ted Cruz, or someone like him, actually animates people rather than treating them like widgets to be manipulated by those born to the purple. Perhaps politics isn't "The Price Is Right."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Massachusetts; US: Texas; US: Utah; US: Wisconsin
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1 posted on 12/23/2014 9:41:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“If given the choice, a few would even select Hillary Clinton as president over Texas Senator Ted Cruz. “

More than a few of the GOPe and their donors would do that I think


2 posted on 12/23/2014 9:43:58 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
JEB = RINO = LOSER. 💩

3 posted on 12/23/2014 9:44:23 PM PST by skinkinthegrass ("Bathhouse" E'Bola/0'Boehmer/0'McConnell; all STINK and their best friends are flies . d8^)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ted Cruz needs to run and defeat these socialist trash, the Bush empire, the Clinton empire needs shut down. If America wants to survive the people needs to get a real leader elected.


4 posted on 12/23/2014 9:45:22 PM PST by Busko
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I quite simply will never vote for Jeb.

I would rather see Warren president if it comes to that.

Let’s face it. Obama has basically destroyed the country.

Anything less than a major shift isn’t worth it.


5 posted on 12/23/2014 9:45:33 PM PST by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The reason to vote Cruz over Bush? He is the better man.


6 posted on 12/23/2014 9:48:07 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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RE:”His widely perceived alternative, grassroots favorite, Ted Cruz, cannot win.”

Cant win the GOP primary more like.

The key is to have someone who can beat Bush and Cristie in the primary.

As bad as Romney was, Newt, Santurum, Cain and Bachman were no match for him,

7 posted on 12/23/2014 9:49:09 PM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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Ted Cruz is the only one who can I think.


8 posted on 12/23/2014 9:50:41 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: skinkinthegrass
JEB = RINO = LOSER. 💩 ---- I won't be voting for another Bush. I will vote 3rd party or not at all if he's the nominee. And I am one of those guys that usually get mad at people on here for not supporting lame republicans over democrats. Personally, I see little difference between Jeb and Hillary. Not enough to make me get out and vote for Jeb.
9 posted on 12/23/2014 9:52:10 PM PST by boycott
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If Jeb gets the nom... the GOP is dead. No use for it any longer, time to start a new Liberty party.


10 posted on 12/23/2014 9:54:26 PM PST by gwgn02
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To: sickoflibs

If Ted Cruz, who is quite possibly smarter than the whole field was in 2008 and 2012, combined, can’t beat Jeb Bush, who unlike his father, grandfather and older brother, did not even attend Yale, who can?


11 posted on 12/23/2014 9:56:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: gwgn02

If Jeb gets the nom... the GOP is dead. No use for it any longer, time to start a new Liberty party.


I am with you. 100% chance I won’t be voting for Jeb.

I believe we’re living in bizarro world. No way I thought we would have another Bush this soon trying to screw things up.

If we see jeb and the GOPe is going to win, it would be a good idea to break away early.


12 posted on 12/23/2014 9:59:49 PM PST by boycott
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Hey. Wait for me!


13 posted on 12/23/2014 10:00:29 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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bump


14 posted on 12/23/2014 10:14:52 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, not just for Democrats anymore)
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Bingo!!!! A strategy is to start now. A letter mailed to Jeb “the Bush” goes a long way. He already has a manager overseeing the web, but a letter with a stamp means more— just a suggestion. In the interim, and as I have said before, I will never vote for Bush, even in the event of the “lesser of two evils.” That goes for the establishment promoters. Unless you have forgotten—Hugh Hewitt, Michael Medved, and a few others. Medved is especially good at not worrying about the deficit—never mind the debt.
How do you feel now Michael? The deficit cannot go on forever, lower every year—but what about the addition to the debt, when does that matter?

These guys are on our side but they have unfortunately become complacent about the real problem. Stop spending, freeze the spending, abolish the agencies, and bring us back to sanity, What is so hard about that? Stop this nonsense! At what point will the populace see we are headed off a cliff? I hope it is soon.


15 posted on 12/23/2014 10:15:39 PM PST by Fungi (There is more to Fungi than the eye can see.)
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I am very much for Ted Cruz, with one provision.

America currently has exported far, far too many of our very own jobs.

We need to bring back jobs and employ all Americans. Then and only then, should we worry quite as much as Ted Cruz does about our national healthcare, not involving government.

I am all for Ted Cruz, but he really, really needs to work for American jobs, before spending all of his effort on getting government out of healthcare.

Jobs.

Ted Cruz is on the right track, but America needs to bring back American jobs.


16 posted on 12/23/2014 10:20:43 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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RE:”If Ted Cruz, who is quite possibly smarter than the whole field was in 2008 and 2012, combined, can’t beat Jeb Bush, who unlike his father, grandfather and older brother, did not even attend Yale, who can?”

Didn't you think the same thing about Newt against Romney?

17 posted on 12/23/2014 10:32:23 PM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: GeronL

Uh. Yeah

ANYONE who supports Jeb is in favor of a hillary presidency. Forget about it


18 posted on 12/23/2014 10:41:22 PM PST by stanne
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ANYONE who supports Jeb is in favor of a hillary presidency. Forget about it

What difference does it make?

19 posted on 12/23/2014 10:43:15 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: skinkinthegrass

Jeb is a RINO LOSER!!


20 posted on 12/23/2014 11:12:14 PM PST by tallyhoe
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