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1 posted on 12/23/2014 9:41:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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“If given the choice, a few would even select Hillary Clinton as president over Texas Senator Ted Cruz. “

More than a few of the GOPe and their donors would do that I think


2 posted on 12/23/2014 9:43:58 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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JEB = RINO = LOSER. 💩

3 posted on 12/23/2014 9:44:23 PM PST by skinkinthegrass ("Bathhouse" E'Bola/0'Boehmer/0'McConnell; all STINK and their best friends are flies . d8^)
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Ted Cruz needs to run and defeat these socialist trash, the Bush empire, the Clinton empire needs shut down. If America wants to survive the people needs to get a real leader elected.


4 posted on 12/23/2014 9:45:22 PM PST by Busko
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I quite simply will never vote for Jeb.

I would rather see Warren president if it comes to that.

Let’s face it. Obama has basically destroyed the country.

Anything less than a major shift isn’t worth it.


5 posted on 12/23/2014 9:45:33 PM PST by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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The reason to vote Cruz over Bush? He is the better man.


6 posted on 12/23/2014 9:48:07 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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RE:”His widely perceived alternative, grassroots favorite, Ted Cruz, cannot win.”

Cant win the GOP primary more like.

The key is to have someone who can beat Bush and Cristie in the primary.

As bad as Romney was, Newt, Santurum, Cain and Bachman were no match for him,

7 posted on 12/23/2014 9:49:09 PM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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bump


14 posted on 12/23/2014 10:14:52 PM PST by Pelham (Treason, not just for Democrats anymore)
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Bingo!!!! A strategy is to start now. A letter mailed to Jeb “the Bush” goes a long way. He already has a manager overseeing the web, but a letter with a stamp means more— just a suggestion. In the interim, and as I have said before, I will never vote for Bush, even in the event of the “lesser of two evils.” That goes for the establishment promoters. Unless you have forgotten—Hugh Hewitt, Michael Medved, and a few others. Medved is especially good at not worrying about the deficit—never mind the debt.
How do you feel now Michael? The deficit cannot go on forever, lower every year—but what about the addition to the debt, when does that matter?

These guys are on our side but they have unfortunately become complacent about the real problem. Stop spending, freeze the spending, abolish the agencies, and bring us back to sanity, What is so hard about that? Stop this nonsense! At what point will the populace see we are headed off a cliff? I hope it is soon.


15 posted on 12/23/2014 10:15:39 PM PST by Fungi (There is more to Fungi than the eye can see.)
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I am very much for Ted Cruz, with one provision.

America currently has exported far, far too many of our very own jobs.

We need to bring back jobs and employ all Americans. Then and only then, should we worry quite as much as Ted Cruz does about our national healthcare, not involving government.

I am all for Ted Cruz, but he really, really needs to work for American jobs, before spending all of his effort on getting government out of healthcare.

Jobs.

Ted Cruz is on the right track, but America needs to bring back American jobs.


16 posted on 12/23/2014 10:20:43 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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Well, we’re about to go down this path again.

So expect a President opposed to the founding principles of the Republic, whether Republican oe Democrat.


22 posted on 12/23/2014 11:19:47 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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Exactly right. Too bad Rove and his ilk are stuck in the past, too old school to know. Wonder if there has been a Florida poll on Jeb? Can’t imagine he will do well.


23 posted on 12/24/2014 12:15:15 AM PST by libbylu
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Pretty good article.

This : “margin of loss is significantly less important than the direction of the political narrative” s true and why anyone would have a better nominee than Romney.

It’s interesting also in that Shapiro is usually quite disdainful toward Cruz and it is obvious Shapiro doesn’t like him.


24 posted on 12/24/2014 12:58:07 AM PST by ifinnegan
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[Article] " For all the talk about grassroots exasperation with the Republican elites, it is the Republican elites who despise the grassroots."

Call them the "Round-Up" or "Weed-B-Gone" wing of the Party.

Death to grass roots! Karl Rove forever!
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25 posted on 12/24/2014 1:25:07 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for Lthe termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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It is going to be another Romney moment. They are not going to criticize and sit like children unpresidentialy getting lectured on leftist morality. Thus why would the undecided vote for them if there is no formulated opposition.


28 posted on 12/24/2014 2:05:04 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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>> Shapiro: Cruz, establishment Republicans say, polarizes instead of unifying

Yup, that’s the Left’s meme. The same BS the GOP-e is pushing.


30 posted on 12/24/2014 2:09:44 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Sorry, Jeb, but even if you were right on the issues, I have zero inclination toward dynasties. We want NO American Aristocracy. (Same for the Clintons, Kennedys, etc.)

So, to the poor little rich kid who wants to be president....NO!


32 posted on 12/24/2014 3:31:46 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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Ted Cruz is our last hope before implosion. I don’t want to go the route of the UK.


34 posted on 12/24/2014 4:54:55 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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Who knows how it would turn out, really?

One thing that I would love to see, even if Cruz did not get the nomination is a strong performance that effectively forces all the other candidates to shift right dramatically.

Who knows? In the aftermath of the fight, one or more of them might break their necks whiplashing back to the center left for the general election.


35 posted on 12/24/2014 4:55:57 AM PST by Gaffer
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Those Republicans -- largely coastal donors who scorn social conservatives as rubes, and shun the supposed fiscal extremism of the tea party -- have been searching for a candidate who will buck the base on immigration, who doesn't mind hand-in-glove corporatism, and who, most of all, feels the same way they do about the grassroots.

Good luck then getting grassroots votes from the base, GOP-E.

39 posted on 12/24/2014 6:13:43 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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It is best to rally round a conservative early. Let RINOs like Bush, Christie and Romney split the GOPe vote.

The secret is for the conservatives to come together before the primaries.


47 posted on 12/25/2014 1:19:24 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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