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Jeb Bush Vs. Ted Cruz
Townhall ^ | December 24, 2014 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 12/23/2014 9:41:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Cruz is the man!!!


21 posted on 12/23/2014 11:12:53 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, we’re about to go down this path again.

So expect a President opposed to the founding principles of the Republic, whether Republican oe Democrat.


22 posted on 12/23/2014 11:19:47 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Exactly right. Too bad Rove and his ilk are stuck in the past, too old school to know. Wonder if there has been a Florida poll on Jeb? Can’t imagine he will do well.


23 posted on 12/24/2014 12:15:15 AM PST by libbylu
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pretty good article.

This : “margin of loss is significantly less important than the direction of the political narrative” s true and why anyone would have a better nominee than Romney.

It’s interesting also in that Shapiro is usually quite disdainful toward Cruz and it is obvious Shapiro doesn’t like him.


24 posted on 12/24/2014 12:58:07 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
[Article] " For all the talk about grassroots exasperation with the Republican elites, it is the Republican elites who despise the grassroots."

Call them the "Round-Up" or "Weed-B-Gone" wing of the Party.

Death to grass roots! Karl Rove forever!
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25 posted on 12/24/2014 1:25:07 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for Lthe termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: dfwgator

None. Islamo communists. The both families. The hapsburgs and Rothschilds er hatfields and McCoys


26 posted on 12/24/2014 1:32:56 AM PST by stanne
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To: sickoflibs; 2ndDivisionVet
[2ndDV]
RE:”If Ted Cruz, who is quite possibly smarter than the whole field was in 2008 and 2012, combined, can’t beat Jeb Bush, who unlike his father, grandfather and older brother, did not even attend Yale, who can?”

Didn't you think the same thing about Newt against Romney?


His whole point was, he's sworn off that bottle with Karl Rove's picture on the label, the one called "Yeah, but Mittens is still better than.....___". No more "The Price Is Right" strategerizing, give us a real conservative.

Bump.

27 posted on 12/24/2014 1:51:56 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for Lthe termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is going to be another Romney moment. They are not going to criticize and sit like children unpresidentialy getting lectured on leftist morality. Thus why would the undecided vote for them if there is no formulated opposition.


28 posted on 12/24/2014 2:05:04 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: garjog

A guy like Jeb would probably be able to implement stuff like gun control just the way Boehner pushed for Amnesty without forcing the democrats in a trade.

The only thing left is I might have to confront black panthers at the polls to keep my right to vote for a clown.


29 posted on 12/24/2014 2:07:09 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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>> Shapiro: Cruz, establishment Republicans say, polarizes instead of unifying

Yup, that’s the Left’s meme. The same BS the GOP-e is pushing.


30 posted on 12/24/2014 2:09:44 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"Ted Cruz is on the right track, but America needs to bring back American jobs."

Smaller government will bring back more than any other proposed solutions because smaller government would lower all the regulations currently in place and likely to grow.

Any jobs that were brought back would probably be filled by lawbreaking illegal immigrants who remit substantial amounts of their earnings to their home countries thereby stiff arming the American economy.

31 posted on 12/24/2014 2:50:46 AM PST by monocle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry, Jeb, but even if you were right on the issues, I have zero inclination toward dynasties. We want NO American Aristocracy. (Same for the Clintons, Kennedys, etc.)

So, to the poor little rich kid who wants to be president....NO!


32 posted on 12/24/2014 3:31:46 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Jeb Bush isn’t even close to Cruz as a potential POTUS. He should stay in Florida and enjoy the sunshine.


33 posted on 12/24/2014 4:49:33 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ted Cruz is our last hope before implosion. I don’t want to go the route of the UK.


34 posted on 12/24/2014 4:54:55 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who knows how it would turn out, really?

One thing that I would love to see, even if Cruz did not get the nomination is a strong performance that effectively forces all the other candidates to shift right dramatically.

Who knows? In the aftermath of the fight, one or more of them might break their necks whiplashing back to the center left for the general election.


35 posted on 12/24/2014 4:55:57 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: boycott
I won't be voting for another Bush. I will vote 3rd party or not at all if he's the nominee. And I am one of those guys that usually get mad at people on here for not supporting lame republicans over democrats.

Ditto. No point in voting for Jeb.

36 posted on 12/24/2014 4:56:04 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: boycott; All
(not supporting RINOS) Rem: The Reagan Rule: Always support the most conservative in the
race
, looks like, if Jeb is nominated, the Conservatives may just repeat '12.. or vote third
party..there is no two party system in Wdc, only the Wash. DC Establishment Party. 😕
that said, we as Conservatives, MUST organize locally/statewide to defeat these vile
creatures. Any Congresscritters, whom support the Establishment deserves defeat.

37 posted on 12/24/2014 5:29:46 AM PST by skinkinthegrass ("Bathhouse" E'Bola/0'Boehmer/0'McConnell; all STINK and their best friends are flies . d8^)
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To: tallyhoe
please note reply #37

38 posted on 12/24/2014 5:35:33 AM PST by skinkinthegrass ("Bathhouse" E'Bola/0'Boehmer/0'McConnell; all STINK and their best friends are flies . d8^)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Those Republicans -- largely coastal donors who scorn social conservatives as rubes, and shun the supposed fiscal extremism of the tea party -- have been searching for a candidate who will buck the base on immigration, who doesn't mind hand-in-glove corporatism, and who, most of all, feels the same way they do about the grassroots.

Good luck then getting grassroots votes from the base, GOP-E.

39 posted on 12/24/2014 6:13:43 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: sickoflibs; All
The key is to have someone who can beat Bush and Cristie in the primary.

How is that going to happen when Team Romney has already rigged the nomination process for 2016?

Floor fight: Grass-roots activists battle attempt to rig RNC delegate rules

40 posted on 12/24/2014 6:20:22 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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