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Jonathan Gruber: Obama personally asked me to help disguise unhelpful Obamacare facts
Hotair ^ | 11/17/2014 | Guy Benson

Posted on 11/17/2014 10:00:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind

That’s not quite his verbatim quote, but it’s pretty darn close:

CLICK ABOVE LINK FOR THE VIDEO

“The problem is it’s a political nightmare, and people say ‘no, you can’t tax my benefits’…so what we did a lot in that room was think a lot about well how could we make this work? … And [Obama] is really a realistic guy. He was like, ‘look, I can’t just do this.’ He said ‘it’s just not going to happen politically. The bill will not pass. How do we manage to get there through phase-ins and other things?’ And we talked about it. He was just very interested in that topic.”

And why was Obama so keen on obscuring the nature of his signature law’s taxes? Perhaps because he’d just recently spent months relentlessly hammering John McCain over a proposal to tax health benefits “for the first time.” So he needed MacGruber to swoop in and help craft a strategy of evasion and deflection. Noah mentioned over the weekend that in his response to Grubergate, Obama insisted that he’d never misled the public on Obamacare (which virtually nobody really buys at this point, and for good reason) and disavowed Gruber’s seemingly endless damning comments. One formulation that stuck out to me was his assertion that Gruber “was never on our staff.” This is exceedingly weak spin. The video above contains evidence that the president was personally huddling with Gruber on the Obamacare sales pitch, charging him with fashioning accounting tricks that might provide a politically-necessary fig leaf — which Paul Ryan dismantled at the pre-passage “health care summit.” It’s impossible for the White House to just divorce itself from this guy. He was very much their guy. Not only did they furnish Gruber with $400,000 for his services, they made him a leading point person for “drafting the specifics” of the law with Congress. Via the New York Times:

Along with these credentials, Mr. Gruber’s position as an adviser to the influential Congressional Budget Office also left him perfectly positioned to advise the White House on health reform. “The most important arbiter of everything was the C.B.O.,” said Neera Tanden, who was a senior adviser for health reform at the Department of Health and Human Services. The C.B.O.’s assessment of a bill’s efficacy and costs strongly influences political debate, but the office does not publicly reveal how it calculates those numbers. “We knew the numbers he gave us would be close to where the C.B.O. was likely to come out,” Ms. Tanden said. She was right. After Mr. Gruber helped the administration put together the basic principles of the proposal, the White House lent him to Capitol Hill to help Congressional staff members draft the specifics of the legislation.

That 2012 profile also quotes Gruber cheerfully describing himself as a “card-carrying Democrat” who routinely holds election night “victory parties” with friends. (How did this year’s celebration go, I wonder?) Obama can try to pull a Pelosi with Gruber. Good luck with that. Alternatively, he can keep lying about not having lied, but only the hardest-core of partisans will believe him. Even Obamacare supporters like Ron Fournier are throwing in the towel, conceding that the law was constructed on a “foundation of lies.” Indeed.


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1 posted on 11/17/2014 10:00:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

He needs to be in front of a congressional committee


2 posted on 11/17/2014 10:06:29 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Thad is a thud for me)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rush just talked about O’s denial about knowing who Gruber is.


3 posted on 11/17/2014 10:07:26 AM PST by CedarDave
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To: SeekAndFind
It just keeps getting worse. . The spotlights are on him now. . How is he going to express his narcissistic rage? We'll see. . Has America ever had to worry about this with any other President?
5 posted on 11/17/2014 10:09:39 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: ifinnegan

and then a firing squad.


6 posted on 11/17/2014 10:10:04 AM PST by muddytadpole
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama set up Obamacare on a vile “conspiracy of the elders of Zions” bulk crap.

Amazing millions get killed by people who believe this crap, Hitler being one of them.


7 posted on 11/17/2014 10:10:56 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Nachum

Ping.


8 posted on 11/17/2014 10:10:57 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind

I fear for Gruber.


9 posted on 11/17/2014 10:11:55 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

6 Grubergate videos so far make Nixon’s little missing tape minutes look like a sniffle in preschool.

First You Tube link to Gruber bragging about lying to stupid American Voters about ObozoCare.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G790p0LcgbI

Second Grubergate Video link to Gruber bragging about how stupid American voters are/were to pass ObozoCare.

<http://hotair.com/archives/2014/11/12/gruber-video-2-no-really-american-voters-are-stupid/

Third Video from Herr Gruber on stupid Americans wanting Obozocare.

http://weaselzippers.us/205230-three-strikes-third-video-of-obamacare-architect-jonathan-gruber-calling-americans-stupid/

Fourth Grubergate video from Herr Gruber re stupid Americans.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?292478-1/health-care-reform

Fifth Grubergate video from Herr Gruber re stupid Americans, Fifth Video Emerges, Showing Gruber Mocking Man Worried About Obamacare

http://dailysignal.com/2014/11/14/fifth-video-emerges-showing-gruber-mocking-man-worried-about-obamacare/

Sixth Grubergate video from Herr Gruber re stupid Americans.

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/11/14/the-hits-keep-coming-gruber-video-6/

There is also a there is a PBS video of Gruber saying he worked with Obama himself in the Oval office:

http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/14/president-crafted-obamacare-deception-with-gruber-at-white-house-meeting/

Remember zero Republicans in Congress voted for ObozoCare. Every stupid rat in Congress voted for it without reading the bill or caring what was in it.


10 posted on 11/17/2014 10:12:21 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: ifinnegan
No, a judge and jury.

Him and Hussein both!

11 posted on 11/17/2014 10:13:18 AM PST by Envisioning (My desire to be well informed is at odds with my desire to remain sane....)
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To: SeekAndFind

The fraud was Barry’s idea.


12 posted on 11/17/2014 10:14:00 AM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.dallasblog.com/201411161010925/dallas-blog/hillarycare-more-disruptive-than-obamacare-says-jonathan-gruber.html


13 posted on 11/17/2014 10:15:05 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sybeck1

Is “congressional committee “ another name for a firing squad?


14 posted on 11/17/2014 10:15:33 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Sacajaweau
I fear for Gruber.

Might get Fuddyed.

15 posted on 11/17/2014 10:15:54 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Grampa Dave
Good list. Thanks for posting.
16 posted on 11/17/2014 10:16:54 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Great Freeping, Grandpa Dave! Thanks!


17 posted on 11/17/2014 10:17:22 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obastard WAS THERE,
and WAS PART OF,
the meetings on how to deceive America about this fiasco.


18 posted on 11/17/2014 10:19:08 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind
I have noticed that all the Dems in DC have suddenly taken to wearing Groucho glasses and speaking in thick accents. "Zis Gruber fellow, I 'ave nevair 'eard of 'im," said Nancy Pelosi. "Ach, Gruber? Ze name iss not familiar," said Barack 0bama. "I'm a little teapot, short and stout," said Joe Biden...

Well, at least Joe isn't lying his butt off.

19 posted on 11/17/2014 10:19:42 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SeekAndFind

My fervent wish (and I see bits of it coming true each day), is that ALL of the fraud perpetrated upon We The People by this ‘man’ and this Administration and the Enemy Media comes back to bite them - big time. I think Election Day was a big sign, don’t you?

Karma, Baby? Do. Your. Worst.


20 posted on 11/17/2014 10:20:06 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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