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Newly discovered fossil could prove a problem for creationists
Washington Post ^ | November 5, 2014 | Rachel Feltman

Posted on 11/07/2014 2:43:53 PM PST by Alter Kaker

Researchers report that they've found the missing link between an ancient aquatic predator and its ancestors on land. Ichthyosaurs, the dolphin-like reptiles that lived in the sea during the time of the dinosaurs, evolved from terrestrial creatures that made their way back into the water over time.

But the fossil record for the lineage has been spotty, without a clear link between land-based reptiles and the aquatic ichthyosaurs scientists know came after. Now, researchers report in Nature that they've found that link — an amphibious ancestor of the swimming ichthyosaurs named Cartorhynchus lenticarpus.

"Many creationists have tried to portray ichthyosaurs as being contrary to evolution," said lead author Ryosuke Motani, a professor of earth and planetary sciences at the University of California Davis. "We knew based on their bone structure that they were reptiles, and that their ancestors lived on land at some time, but they were fully adapted to life in the water. So creationists would say, well, they couldn't have evolved from those reptiles, because where's the link?"

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: creation; evolution; geology; ichthyosaur; ichthyosaurs; missinglink; paleontology; sectarianturmoil
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The author is naive -- there are no problems for creationists. Because no matter how much evidence accumulates, they will still find a way to ignore it. The scientific question was settled more than a century ago.
1 posted on 11/07/2014 2:43:54 PM PST by Alter Kaker
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To: Alter Kaker

I’m confused. Did we crawl out of the ocean or into it or did we play around going back and forth?


2 posted on 11/07/2014 2:45:51 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Alter Kaker
So could this Fossil...

Becasue he is soooooo OLD!!!

3 posted on 11/07/2014 2:47:11 PM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: DonaldC
I’m confused. Did we crawl out of the ocean or into it or did we play around going back and forth?

Our ancestors aren't ichthyosaurs. However ichthyosaurs did descend from land animals that evolved into sea animals. Just like whales and dolphins later did.

4 posted on 11/07/2014 2:47:12 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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>>I’m confused. Did we crawl out of the ocean or into it or did we play around going back and forth?<<

Amphibious=”relating to, living in, or suited for both land and water.”

I hope that helps.


5 posted on 11/07/2014 2:48:23 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Zimmerman, Brown, Fast & Furious, IRS harassment, Philly ignorance: holdering in 1st degree)
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To: DonaldC

back and forth as conditions may have required


6 posted on 11/07/2014 2:49:27 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Alter Kaker

7 posted on 11/07/2014 2:49:49 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Alter Kaker

I wouldn’t expect anything different than “the science is settled” out of a rigged intellectual game.


8 posted on 11/07/2014 2:50:21 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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What? You mean we weren't HATCHED by some TRex?
DANG, I thought I had SOLVED the mystery of why so many folks were BEASTLY sometimes!
9 posted on 11/07/2014 2:50:28 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

looks like a man. A very ugly man.


10 posted on 11/07/2014 2:51:39 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Alter Kaker

There is NO problem for us Creationists. Who made the animal now fossilized in the first place? I think God did that. See? No problem.


11 posted on 11/07/2014 2:51:42 PM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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PUL-EEZE!!
Did you HAVE to post that OOOOOooooooooooly face?!?!

There goes my appetite for the next eight hours.

12 posted on 11/07/2014 2:52:24 PM PST by cloudmountain
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“The scientific question was settled more than a century ago”

Yeah the science is settled, the consensus has been reached...evolution happened...thus there is no God../s

Sounds like the reasoning of Global warmists.....the science is settled, the consensus has been reached...men caused global warming and if you disagree with Hanson’s thermal “hockey stick” we will get the Democrats to pass a law to put you in jail(and there is no God)...../double sarcasm!


13 posted on 11/07/2014 2:52:43 PM PST by mdmathis6
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

You HAD to ruin a perfectly good thread.


14 posted on 11/07/2014 2:53:01 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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15 posted on 11/07/2014 2:53:29 PM PST by EEGator
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Now there’s a missing link, to... to..., well it is!!!


16 posted on 11/07/2014 2:53:34 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The mid-term elections were perfect for him. Now Obama can really lead from behind.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

That entity is not of this Earth.


17 posted on 11/07/2014 2:54:09 PM PST by NorthMountain
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evolution happened...thus there is no God../s

Really? Your faith is that fragile? I believe in evolution and God. If observed reality doesn't match your understanding of scripture, did it ever occur to you that your understanding of scripture might be off?

18 posted on 11/07/2014 2:54:23 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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The scientific question was settled more than a century ago.

Scientific questions are never settled.
19 posted on 11/07/2014 2:55:28 PM PST by microgood
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I didn’t think evolutionists admitted there were any missing links. I guess there aren’t until they find one? Now we are back to no missing links?


20 posted on 11/07/2014 2:55:57 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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