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Pope Francis adviser hints at rethink on contraception ban
The Telegraph ^ | 19 Sep 2014 | John Bingham

Posted on 09/23/2014 11:19:19 AM PDT by BurningOak

A leading reformist Cardinal close to Pope Francis has hinted at the possibility of a reinterpretation of the Roman Catholic Church’s blanket ban on artificial contraception.

Cardinal Walter Kasper said it was “the responsibility of the parents” to decide how many children they should have.

He also said that so-called natural family planning, which is promoted by the Church as an alternative to contraception, also has an “artificial” element.

His comments in an interview with The Tablet, the Catholic weekly, are likely to reopen debate about one of the most contentious areas of Catholic teaching just weeks before a special global gathering of bishops in Rome to discuss the Church’s position on family matters.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: birthcontrol; life; popefrancis; vatican
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An interesting discussion. My personal belief is that birth control is OK as long as it does not cause an abortion. So condoms and contraceptives that stop the process prior to fertilization are OK, but morning after pills are not. That said I am not Catholic. At any rate, contraceptive use is so universal in US and Europe that the topic is essentially a moot point, focus should be on abortion and the family.
1 posted on 09/23/2014 11:19:19 AM PDT by BurningOak
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Don't need a rethink. It's already been thought out.

Humanae Vitae

2 posted on 09/23/2014 11:22:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: BurningOak

Didn’t the progressives pull this crap back in the ‘60s?

I’m gettin’ really sick of the pathological liars in Big Media puking up rubbish from unnamed sources and trying to make the news instead of merely reporting it.


3 posted on 09/23/2014 11:23:02 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: BurningOak

Nancy Pelosi is calling herself an advisor to the Pope now???


4 posted on 09/23/2014 11:23:55 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Hey Obama: If Islamic State is not Islamic, then why did you give Osama Bin Laden a muslim funeral?)
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To: BurningOak

So do they want to replace the ‘aspirin held tightly between the knees’ with a watermelon?................


5 posted on 09/23/2014 11:27:09 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: BurningOak

Arguing against birth control is like arguing against Math. Multiplication in particular.


6 posted on 09/23/2014 11:27:26 AM PDT by soycd
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To: BurningOak

Somebody needs to stuff a sock in Kasper’s mouth. The guy is a loose cannon, and the Pope is a wuss who is completely in awe of German liberals beloved of the press.


7 posted on 09/23/2014 11:27:56 AM PDT by livius
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To: BurningOak

I agree, we have to stop the bleeding first and get the gusher of a wound down to a seeping wound at the very least....


8 posted on 09/23/2014 11:28:23 AM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: NorthMountain

Ever since Eward R. Murrow’s ‘Harvest of Shame’, every so-called ‘journalist’ wants to ‘make a difference’, so they nudge and fudge the ‘news’ to fit agendas that will propel them into a Pulitzer Prize.............


9 posted on 09/23/2014 11:30:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: BurningOak

Instead of possibly demoting conservative Cardinal Burke the Pope should toss Cardinal Kasper out of the RC.


10 posted on 09/23/2014 11:30:31 AM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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My personal belief is that birth control is OK as long as it does not cause an abortion.

Yours or anyone's personal beliefs are utterly irrelevant to a Catholic on faith and morals issues. That's part of the reason we're Catholics. The Catholic beliefs are set out in the Magisterium and are not subject to any kind of a subjective or relativistic re-interpretation. A bad pope might try to change things but he won't prevail in the end.

11 posted on 09/23/2014 11:31:07 AM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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There is nothing new here at all in regard to Catholic teaching on artificial means of contraception. Of course Catholic couples have a responsibility to determine rationally the number of children; and of course the use of natural family planning can involve motivations that are analogous to the use of artificial means. Every Catholic moral theologian of the past 50 years agrees with this, as does official Catholic teaching on the matter since Humanae Vitae.

So what is going on here?

I’ll tell you.

This kind of article raises the expectation in the minds of some low-information Catholics that, in the matter of contraception and the acceptance of divorced-and-remarried and gay couples to the Eucharist, teachings will be changed. But when the teachings are NOT changed, then these low-information Catholics will get all wee-weed up and join the ranks of the Dissidents. This kind of article is part of an agenda.


12 posted on 09/23/2014 11:31:25 AM PDT by Remole
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Then they can rethink all that Jesus is God, Mary was a virgin, rise from the dead, nonsense too?


13 posted on 09/23/2014 11:32:21 AM PDT by Raycpa
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No, but you have to understand why Kasper, disappointed leftist that he is, says these things. Nobody can really accuse him of having said anything contradictory to Catholic teaching, but at the same time, it’s pretty obvious that he wanted them to think that he was saying something contradictory to Catholic teaching.

All the old lefties are coming forward and getting in their licks now. What does the Pope think? Who knows? Does he himself know?


14 posted on 09/23/2014 11:41:42 AM PDT by livius
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I agree. (not catholic either).

My kids told me that the morning after pill doesn't kill a fertilized egg, but rather works similar to regular birth control in that it stops the egg from coming down to get fertilized in the first place. And that it does nothing to abort a fertilized egg.

Anyone know the truth?

15 posted on 09/23/2014 11:52:25 AM PDT by DannyTN
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Arguing against birth control is like arguing against Math. Multiplication in particular.

You do realize that we are birth-controlling and abortioning ourselves out of existence, right?

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/22-facts-about-the-coming-demographic-tsunami-that-could-destroy-our-economy-all-by-itself

But then you probably consider that to be a good thing.

16 posted on 09/23/2014 11:52:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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"has hinted at the possibility of a reinterpretation of the Roman Catholic Church’s blanket ban on artificial contraception"

That wouldn't be a "reinterpretation" but, rather, a whole scale revision of what is supposed to be immutable doctrine.

17 posted on 09/23/2014 11:55:24 AM PDT by circlecity
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Anyone know the truth?

Yes, I do.

The white European-descended race is committing suicide through birth control, and the God who created that people doesn't like it.

18 posted on 09/23/2014 11:56:20 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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Sorry Walter...”ain’t” going to happen.

Roma locuta est, causa finita est.


19 posted on 09/23/2014 11:57:43 AM PDT by Miles the Slasher
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To: BurningOak

Truth be known, the majority of married Catholic couples (and my gut says it’s a very sizeable majority) have used birth control at some point during their marriage. Not necessarily to defy Humanae Vitae but due to health concerns for the woman, repeated miscarriages, etc.

I think the Church realizes if they brought down a strict enforcement the pews would be empty.


20 posted on 09/23/2014 11:58:13 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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