Different emphasis, same facts as New York Daily News story
1 posted on
07/24/2014 10:08:32 AM PDT by
marktwain
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To: marktwain
Different emphasis, same facts as New York Daily News story And likely the same outcome. He'll die in prison.
To: marktwain
In all honesty, I am glad he shot them.
But they were out of the house and no longer posing a threat. He is going to jail...or at least to trial.
3 posted on
07/24/2014 10:11:13 AM PDT by
Vermont Lt
(If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
To: marktwain
Doesn’t matter how it is written or who writes it, this was a very bad shooting and in utterly no way was self defense.
4 posted on
07/24/2014 10:11:25 AM PDT by
dirtboy
To: marktwain
A .22 is a terribly puny, underpowered cartridge for self-defense, most firearms instructors would say, but in a pinch it's better than throwing a rock. I have a 30 round Keltec PMR30 in 22WMR... It's a tiny bullet, but there can be thirty of them - nonstop until the magazine is empty. Dead - Right - There.
5 posted on
07/24/2014 10:11:54 AM PDT by
Gaffer
To: marktwain
"She was dead. I shot her twice, she best be dead ... Shouldn't have said that. Could be his undoing.
6 posted on
07/24/2014 10:13:05 AM PDT by
PapaNew
(Freedom always wins the debate in the forum of ideas)
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Is it just me or does it sounds like this wasn’t self-defense and that the guy pursued these people off his property and more or less executed one of them?
Don’t get me wrong. I have zero sympathy for the dead perp. But it seems as though this incident went waaay beyond self-defense.
Opinions anyone?
7 posted on
07/24/2014 10:13:08 AM PDT by
MplsSteve
To: marktwain
So she was running away, shot in the back and fell in the alley. Then he walks up to her and as she pleads for her life he shoots her twice??!! He’ll be in prison for the rest of his sorry life.
9 posted on
07/24/2014 10:14:09 AM PDT by
SkyDancer
(If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
To: marktwain
This is why you cannot buy .22 ammo anymore...
And for sure now after this story.
They will exploit this idiot’s poor judgment against all of us.
10 posted on
07/24/2014 10:14:09 AM PDT by
Safrguns
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To: marktwain
Violent home invaders are basically terrorists. They deserve nothing less than death. If I were on the jury, I’d acquit the old guy in a split-second. He performed a public service. Just a shame he couldn’t have polished off the other (male) thug as well.
12 posted on
07/24/2014 10:16:10 AM PDT by
greene66
To: marktwain
Nope. I usually love A Happy Ending, where the Bad Guys lose, but I don’t condone this at all.
Gramps is going to be doing some time, though I’m sure by now, living where he lives, he’s taken more crap than humanly tolerable.
15 posted on
07/24/2014 10:16:38 AM PDT by
Diana in Wisconsin
(I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
To: marktwain
“I was in fear for my life”
Read it...Know it....Live it!
16 posted on
07/24/2014 10:16:39 AM PDT by
dfwgator
To: marktwain
she best be deadBest be not.
The plea about pregnancy was probably a lie, but you have to be pretty cold to shoot anyway, in the circumstances as related.
No sympathy here for any of them.
20 posted on
07/24/2014 10:19:01 AM PDT by
Romulus
To: marktwain
IF he pleads senility sayng he thought they were pro-life protesters, two months in an ankle bracelet.
And disability for the rest of his life for suffering from PTSD
21 posted on
07/24/2014 10:20:04 AM PDT by
Rashputin
(Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
To: marktwain
If I were his attorney, I would argue that his mental state was affected by the beating the two criminals gave this man, and subsequently his fear for his life. I'd add in any previous history of his home being broken into or of robbery, violent or otherwise. His age would be an issue as well.
One can only expect so much of a citizen who believes his life is in danger. Adrenaline is a powerful hormone.
23 posted on
07/24/2014 10:22:30 AM PDT by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: marktwain
If this went down as the article states, he’s in a world of trouble. They were no longer a threat to his person. Apparently he shot her in the back which indicates to me she was running away. If she was pregnant it will be worse for him.
As soon as they ran away he should have just called the cops.
25 posted on
07/24/2014 10:23:44 AM PDT by
waxer1
(A Republic if you can keep it--Benjamin Franklin. Well we lost it.)
To: marktwain
In the heat of the moment an 80 year old man shot at two fleeing criminals who had injured him enough to land in the hospital. There has to be a moral allowance for such action after an injury that gets your adrenaline pumping. Especially in a vulnerable 80 year old man who could have been hurt a lot worse than this duo hurt him
My prediction is he will be out $10,000 and more to lawyers but he will not be sent to jail. He will get probation
32 posted on
07/24/2014 10:31:51 AM PDT by
dennisw
(The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
To: marktwain
Regardless what truly happened, the smart play would've been to accentuate the appearance of being the victim of a violent crime and definitely tone down the bravado.
Anyone who blusters on about taking out a criminal using lethal force is asking for some trouble...good, bad or indifferent.
36 posted on
07/24/2014 10:34:27 AM PDT by
Jagdgewehr
(It will take blood.)
To: marktwain
Well, I think it’s pretty clear that the shooter will (and should) be tried for murder.
But the good news is that the dead woman’s accomplice will likely face felony murder charges too.
40 posted on
07/24/2014 10:39:06 AM PDT by
Maceman
To: marktwain
In less than 8% of all gun defensive situations does an armed citizen wound his or her attacker, and in less than one in a thousand instances is the attacker killedThat statistic would improve with generally more range time.
50 posted on
07/24/2014 11:05:15 AM PDT by
arthurus
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To: marktwain
If you don't want to get shot, don't break into an old man's house and beat the crap out of him.
Nuff said.
58 posted on
07/24/2014 11:36:56 AM PDT by
The Cajun
(Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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