Posted on 05/22/2014 3:22:52 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
...The Pope has rejected the idea of same-sex marriage as an “anthropological regression” and stressed that when it comes to adoption, “every person needs a male father and a female mother.”
Pope Francis explained his views on these hot-button issues in his book, On Heaven and Earth: Pope Francis on Faith, Family, and the Church in the Twenty-First Century, which he co-wrote with Rabbi Abraham Skorka in 2010 and which was republished after the then-Argentine cardinal was elected to the papacy in March 2013.
The book is a dialogue between Skorka and the future Pope and includes a chapter on same-sex marriage, which is where the pontiff also talks about adoption.
Skorka first explains that Judaism “prohibits sexual relations between two men” and then expresses worry about how a proposed gay-marriage law in Argentina could change “the core values of our society.”
Pope Francis (then-Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio) says, “I have the exact same opinion; in order to define it I would use the expression ‘anthropologic regression,’ a weakening of the [marriage] institution that is thousands of years old and that was forged according to nature and anthropology.”
“We know that in times of momentous change the homosexual phenomenon grew, but in this period it is the first time that the legal problem of assimilating it to marriage has arisen, and this I consider an anti-value and an anthropological regression,” says the Pope. “I say this because it transcends the religious issue, it is anthropological.”
“If there is a union of a private nature, there is neither a third party nor is society affected,” he writes. “Now, if the union is given the category of marriage and they are given adoption rights, there could be children affected.”
“Every person needs a male father and a female mother that can help them shape their identity,” says Pope Francis.
Explaining further, he says, “It is often argued that a child would be better cared for by a same-sex couple rather than in an orphanage or an institution. Those two situations are not optimal. The problem is that the State does not do what it has to do."
“They should streamline the procedure of adoption, which are never-ending, so that these children can have a home,” says the pontiff. “One failure of the State does not justify another failure of the State. The underlying issue must be addressed. More than a marriage law so that people of the same sex can adopt, we have to improve the adoption laws, which are excessively bureaucratic and, in their current implementation, encourage corruption.”
I guess you’re not Catholic?
Yes, not very tolerant, inclusive or PC of him. So I agree with his statement.
I guess I am not as well.
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Why would being allowed to marry ‘rout out the queers’?
It did not help the Episcopalians, did it. Gene Robinson left his wife and married his gay lover - now he is divorcing his male/husband.
Plenty of gays in the teaching profession and what about the Penn State homosexual deviate who was with the Penn State football faculty - Jerry Sandusky!
Because all the cases of sexual abuse among priests came to a head seemingly all at once, the very enormity of it all gave folks the idea that all priests are prone to being deviates. In fact, the percentage of priests who were involved in these cases is quite small.
“That would certainly rout out the queers, now wouldn’t it.”
Yeah, nary a poofter amongst the Anglican clergy these days.
Freegards
How long before the left demands that the Pope resign?
It is better for a child to live in relative poverty - sharing a room with several siblings, like at my house - in a normal family, than to have every economic advantage but lack a married mother and father.
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Exactly.
BTW, I come from a family of 11. We kids shared rooms, and we did not live in poverty. And when I was growing up, we had one bathroom until we moved when I was 12, and I am just one under the middle child.
Great times. Sharing a room with my next youngest sister gave us lots of quality time together.
Big families are great and teach kids how to get along in society.
Just ask any liberal pro-abort, pro ‘gay marriage,’ priestess wanting Catholic if they would like to keep the discipline of celibacy around. Or just ask a lib of ANY faith about the Latin rite discipline of celibacy. I mean come on, they absolutely hate it.
Freegards
Or who some others fear that he is.
With all due respect, it seems to have been less than universally effective at that for Protestants. And I say that having been one up until last month.
... Pope Francis is on solid Biblical footing ...And incidentally also on solid natural footing.
Within living memory, knowing degeneracy when you see it wasn't a peculiarly religious position.
My first thought.....this is news? This needs to be said? We have come a long way, down.
It did not help the Episcopalians, did it. Gene Robinson left his wife and married his gay lover - now he is divorcing his male/husband.
Well, he's "routed out" ain't he?
Yeah, but are they married, respectable husbands and fathers?...Or run of the mill packers?
I'm bettin' they're not in disguise, but rather typical unrepentant perverts just tying to drag down the church.
Well once the clergy's wives figure it out, they probably aren't able to keep it a secret for long. My point was the boy-raping "priests" were able to hide their queerness under the cloak of celibacy...none of them are married.
I think we can figure out pretty quickly who the Protestant fake clergy are. The problem is the wish-washy sects that allows them to continue serving in the church....especially with boys around.
“Yeah, but are they married, respectable husbands and fathers?...Or run of the mill packers?”
The men who are supposed to keep the gays out because of their matrimonial state or the gays who are supposed to be kept out because clergy can marry?
“I’m bettin’ they’re not in disguise, but rather typical unrepentant perverts just tying to drag down the church.”
You would win that bet. Of course they are not in disguise, they are celebrated and promoted. So they don’t have to be disguised. Yet it is possible for male Anglican clergy to marry women, which isn’t seeming to put a damper on things.
Do you find it strange that every liberal of every faith invariably wants the Catholic Church to stop the discipline of celibacy? I do. You would think there would be a few out there that are all for it somehow.
Freegards
So, St. Paul was a hypocrite. The Pope is in favor of priests, bishops, monks, and nuns each having a mother and a father. Where is the hypocrisy?
That's why I said "relative poverty."
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