Posted on 05/13/2014 11:51:36 AM PDT by rickmichaels
A 64-year-old man has been charged with unlawfully being in a house after he was allegedly found drunk in a two-year-old girl’s bedroom, just south of Hawkesbury, Ont., on Sunday.
The man, George Telfer, 64, of Dalkeith, was also charged with public intoxication.
The incident, which took place in the rural township of Champlain, is being investigated by Hawkesbury provincial police.
According to police, the man was found sitting on the child’s bed in the early hours of the morning.
The toddler’s parents were alerted to the situation after hearing noises coming from her room shortly after 5 a.m. on Sunday.
It’s alleged that when the girl’s father got out of bed to check what was going on, he found the man sitting on the child’s bed.
Police say the man, who was very intoxicated, left the house after the father told him to get out.
When officers arrived they found him sitting on the patio. It is not clear how he entered the home.
He was arrested and detained until he sobered up, police said.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalpost.com ...
That was sure a lot of nuttiness for a single post.
See post 38.
I note that you did not address my dissection of your logical faults, so again by implication, you concede that my assessment of your logic (dis)function is correct.
Ansel12, I have read it. My thoughts remain the same.
My two year old daughter only comes along once. Once someone was violated her or cut her into little pieces, parts of her life or her whole life are over.
That guy would never come in my home again. The end.
That’s my only thought. She gets the benefit of the doubt. He does not.
Look at your post describing your wild feelings and butchery, and a dead daughter, and disregarding what actually happened.
It sounds like you would have rushed in, seen who it was and what had happened, and instead of ushering him out to the patio, and calling the cops, that you would murder the guy as an expression of some inner personal problems, what I call weakness.
I would never want you around when I am dealing with serious situations.
Ansel12, you can come to any conclusion you wish here.
If he’s on my two year old daughter’s bed, I have no way of knowing what I just prevented.
He’s toast, and your opinion about it doesn’t change my thoughts on this at all.
What a thing to do in front of your daughter and her hearing, in her bedroom, I think this child’s father handled it better.
Crickets...
Logic and reason are not strong with this one...
I think he has a logical argument. I don’t agree with it.
There is a lot of this going on these days.
People are stealing kids from their own bedrooms. I have zero tolerance for anything that comes close to this. It’s one no-no high up on my list.
If I found a man in my grandson’s bedroom, he wouldn’t be making a return engagement I guarantee you.
I’ve been very drunk a couple of times. I have never been drunk enough not to know right from wrong, or which house was my own or which one wasn’t.
NEVER!
See post 47, it looks like the dad did the right thing.
Arguing hypothetical and scenarios, isn’t something that interests me, in real life, this happened and it is the article we have to work with, and yes people do stumble into the wrong houses.
I found a drunk in my house one night eating my fruit cake and totally out of it, I ushered him out the door, and didn’t call the cops, and my best friend was undressing in the dark one night when a female voice asked him who he was, he was in the right apartment, but on the wrong floor.
I can see being drunk enough to exit the elevator on the wrong floor and walk in the apartment over or under your own.
This isn’t what happened here is it. We’re talking about the guy making his way to a two year old child’s bed, and then sitting here by the two year old when found.
I’m not going to fault the father for doing anything.
I know what I would do, and it wouldn’t be pretty. If that offends you, so be it.
If someone doesn’t want to pay the price, then don’t wind up on my two year old child’s bed at night.
Only by ignoring original conditions... (which is not logical)
Also note how he quotes/refers to his own posts as authority while refusing to address direct confrontation on the original facts...
Anything he has said has ignored the original wrong while focusing on the 'feelings' issue of the poor drunk.. And then circled that tree. And then circled that tree. And then... ad infinitum.
Still crickets...
Well, I can’t deny most of that.
I disagree with his defense of the defenseless.
I would think the same thing. Then I would decide my toddler might be affected by that decision. Then I would decide that my ability to get the perp out of her room may make my decision a problem. Then I would do what this guy did.
Having read the article (I know - a violation of FR standards for many), I see how this could go either way. If the “noises” gave me concern, whether they sounded like a pervert or like some other threat, I would not expect any blame if I came armed and had to shoot the intruder to defend myself or my child. If the noises sounded like an aging and confused alcoholic who didn’t know he was in the wrong home or that there was a child in the bed that seemed to be not quite where he expected, then I would still come armed, but I would expect to cautiously but firmly escort him outside for the police to pick up. The time of the incident would actually help the drunk; I wouldn’t expect a criminal or a pervert to come at 5:00 am, when many people are sleeping lightly and ready to get up.
Evidently you will argue your own imagination all day long, we have the article and it seems pretty simple, the dad handled it perfectly evidently, and the guy was held over night.
Thanks for your restatement of your views.
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