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Paul Diverges From His Party Over Voter ID
NYTIMES.COM ^ | MAY 9, 2014 | JEREMY W. PETERS

Posted on 05/10/2014 8:46:41 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta

Senator Rand Paul broke with fellow Republicans by saying that the focus on stricter voting laws to crack down on fraud alienates African-Americans and hurts the party.

“Everybody’s gone completely crazy on this voter ID thing,” Mr. Paul said in an interview. “I think it’s wrong for Republicans to go too crazy on this issue because it’s offending people.” ... “The bigger issue actually is whether you get to vote if you have a felony conviction,” he said. “There’s 180,000 people in Kentucky who can’t vote. And I don’t know the racial breakdown, but it’s probably more black than white because they’re convicted felons. And I’m for getting their right to vote back, which is a much bigger deal than showing your driver’s license.” ... Mr. Paul becomes the most prominent member of his party — and among the very few — to distance himself from the voting restrictions and the campaign for their passage in states under Republican control, including North Carolina, Ohio and Wisconsin, that can determine presidential elections. Civil rights groups call the laws a transparent effort to depress black turnout.

Article Link: Paul Diverges From His Party Over Voter ID - NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/10/us/politics/paul-says-gop-push-on-voting-laws-is-alienating-blacks.html?hp&_r=0)


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionfraud; fraud; voterregistration; votestealing
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ok, it is a hacked up story and probably takes him horribly out of context, but this is disturbing and he needs to clarify.

The second quote about getting felons to vote is even more disturbing to me than the voter ID -- which is very disturbing to me.

I don't care if we hurt the feeling of a bunch of corrupt people. If you are honest, showing an ID to vote shouldn't bother you.

I look at the huge teacher test changing parties that went on in Atlanta, and I immediately wondered if we can ever have an honest election when this many people are willing to cheat.

It really offends me that blacks claim to be offended by voter ID. It actually disgusts me and lowers my opinion of anyone that promotes that.

Anyway, it is also telling that the NYSlimes has shut down comments and seems to have elevated the pro vote fraud comments. You have to hunt down to find the reasonable comments and I don't recommend anyone waste their time even with the article. The important thing is we find out what Ryan is thinking.

1 posted on 05/10/2014 8:46:41 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta
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To: FreeAtlanta

Wow. Shortest Presidential campaign ever.


2 posted on 05/10/2014 8:47:51 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I wonder why the “African-Americans” have a problem with showing an I.D. Something stinks here. What are they up to?


3 posted on 05/10/2014 8:49:04 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I never understand this debate about voter ID.

In a world in which you need an ID to get on an airplane, enter a federal building, and to conduct various business transactions, why would that same reasoning not apply to voting????

And, the liberals act as if the Supreme Court didn’t rule that voter ID laws are constitutional. Instead, they continue to bring court cases on these laws in various states, and in some states, liberal judged have set aside voter ID laws, in defiance of the Supreme Court ruling on the subject.

How lower court judges can overturn voter ID laws when the Supreme Court has already ruled on the issue is beyond my pay grade. Has anyone else noticed that? And can anyone explain any legitimate legal reasoning behind this?


4 posted on 05/10/2014 8:50:46 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: FreeAtlanta

Rand Paul...Foot...Gun...Bang!


5 posted on 05/10/2014 8:51:10 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I agree, it is from the nyt and they are probably trying to take him out early. However some clarification from Paul is needed.


6 posted on 05/10/2014 8:51:16 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: FreeAtlanta

Paul needs to stop talking


7 posted on 05/10/2014 8:52:07 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: Texas Eagle

An older article still relevant...

Minority turnout increased dramatically after Georgia voter-ID law

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/09/03/minority-turnout-impacted-by-georgia-voter-id-law/


8 posted on 05/10/2014 8:52:16 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: FreeAtlanta

“I think it’s wrong for Republicans to go too crazy on this issue because it’s offending people.”

Well, we sure would hate for anyone to be offended, wouldn’t we. What a joke. He’s worried about offending people who are perpetually offended. That’s weak stuff.


9 posted on 05/10/2014 8:52:42 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Voting early and often.


10 posted on 05/10/2014 8:54:11 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: FreeAtlanta

“...the focus on stricter voting laws to crack down on fraud alienates African-Americans and hurts the party.”

________________________________

HOGWASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


11 posted on 05/10/2014 8:54:43 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Senator Paul, illegal aliens are illegal.

Felons are felons - I didn’t make them commit the felony, and I resent that you want to dilute my vote with the vote of a felon.

Voter fraud is fraud - and dilutes the vote of honest voters. Voter fraud is color blind, it dilutes the votes of every person, regardless of race. There is only one reason a person would oppose the elimination of voter fraud...well, besides pandering.

If you are OK with voter fraud, you are opposed all honest voters. You have lost my vote and my support...and that ain’t no fraud or felony!!!


12 posted on 05/10/2014 8:55:22 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: FreeAtlanta

Do the Pope and Rand Paul have the same PR advisors?


13 posted on 05/10/2014 8:56:03 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: FreeAtlanta

OK. So conservatives would vote for Rand Paul why?


14 posted on 05/10/2014 8:56:15 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: FreeAtlanta

And Senator Rand - this will not gain you ONE black vote, not even a fraudulent one!!


15 posted on 05/10/2014 8:56:31 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: FreeAtlanta

This guy is shaping up to take over for John McCain.


16 posted on 05/10/2014 8:58:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

:: I think it’s wrong for Republicans to go too crazy on this issue because it’s offending people. ::

OK, if this quote is verifiable, I no longer supprt RP in any way/shape/form and will militate against him (yes, militate is the right term)in all venues.

(On corroboration) Rand Paul is not a patriot and should be shunned and treated as a tax collector and prostitute.
Oh...wait...he’s in WashDC; I am redundant.


17 posted on 05/10/2014 8:59:38 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The Acronym explains the science.)
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To: GilesB

Producing a photo ID alienates those who don’t have a legal right to vote, I’d say. Is it OK to say Rand Paul has his head up his a** on this issue?


18 posted on 05/10/2014 8:59:44 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: GilesB

Yeah, I agree.

For some reason, black have been brain washed or programmed to hate Republicans. Pandering doesn’t help us and probably hurts us with blacks who are free thinkers and already vote or are considering conservative voting.

Pandering definitely hurts with all conservatives.


19 posted on 05/10/2014 9:00:05 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: Texas Eagle

> “And I don’t know the racial breakdown, but it’s probably more black than white because they’re convicted felons.”

He just told the truth, insulted them, and lied about how he really felt just to get their vote. Now if that’s not a career politician I don’t know what is...


20 posted on 05/10/2014 9:00:17 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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