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Ukraine crisis: Dozens killed in Odessa fire amid clashes
BBC News Europe ^ | 5/2/2014 | Staff

Posted on 05/02/2014 12:26:04 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

At least 38 people have been killed in a fire in an official building amid clashes in Odessa, in south west Ukraine, local police say.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: banderists; civilwar; footballfans; maidan; massacre; odessa; rightsector; russia; svoboda; tradeunionhouse; turchynov; ukraine
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To: lodi90; All

From what I can gather from articles and tweets from people on site, is that some pro-Russian kids set up a Maidan-like camp in Central Odessa, and a couple of road blocks. They had been there for a couple of days.

Pro-Kiev demonstrators decided to attack it, throwing rocks, etc. Someone hijacked a Fire truck and smashed it through a barricade, injuring several people. That is when the gunfire and molotovs started.

The Ukrainians chased the pro-Russians into the Union House, where Molotovs were exchanged on both sides. The pro-Kiev’s (likely the Reported Right-Sector Goons that started this) were beating people to death as they came out.

Burn to death in the building, or be killed by the mob, Helluva choice.


21 posted on 05/02/2014 12:51:19 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Agog
From what I read, the anti-Kiev, anti-Maidan people had their encampment set on fire (their tenets) and then it looks like they responded.

Obama’s foreign policy “touch” (Lybia, Syria, Egypt. and now Ukraine) sucks, and is quintessentially anti-Midas.

23 posted on 05/02/2014 12:53:42 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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24 posted on 05/02/2014 12:53:48 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Ruprecht Jamieson

Dear God in heaven...

The Soronistas and McCainiacs here at FR need to watch those videos.


25 posted on 05/02/2014 12:56:23 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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26 posted on 05/02/2014 12:57:04 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf; All

Twitter is blowing up with pics and videos of this now.

If Putin needed an excuse to put an Obama-like “No-Fly Zone” in place over southern Ukraine, he surely has it now.


27 posted on 05/02/2014 12:59:13 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Ruprecht Jamieson
Neonazi mob outside the building tried to prevent police and firemen from helping those inside.

Then they should be exterminated like cockroaches.

28 posted on 05/02/2014 12:59:23 PM PDT by McGruff (I'ts not the crime it's the coverup they said.)
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To: tcrlaf

Hurriyet (turkey) headline:
More than 30 die in ’criminal’ blaze in Odessa, Ukraine, as rebels down 3 army helicopters


29 posted on 05/02/2014 1:00:41 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf; All

Tweet from “Russian Markets” 5 minutes ago

EMERGENCY MEETING IN MOSCOW - KREMLIN


30 posted on 05/02/2014 1:02:33 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All; tcrlaf; caww; Count of Monte Fisto; little jeremiah; Psalm 144; ...

It was Breaking, and the BBC link showed in huge letters “BREAKING” right before I posted it.

Apparently the Admin Moderator dropped the Breaking on the “Topics” line.

I will place it in the “Front Page” section, as the Admin Moderator allows others who come on theses threads to, ahem, engage us in debate, place threads in Breaking and/or Front Page.


31 posted on 05/02/2014 1:06:53 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: tcrlaf

We’ve seen this violence dozens of times before the last few weeks. Armed assaults on Ukrainian buildings or people by Team KGB.

Putin wants dead Ukrainians as a pretext for invasion. Apparently you do too. Wave the bloody shirt if you wish but everyday knows the score at this point.


32 posted on 05/02/2014 1:08:05 PM PDT by lodi90
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“We’ve seen this violence dozens of times before the last few weeks.”

BOVINE EXCREMENT...

They didn’t give them (KIDS) the choice of being beaten to death by a Right-Sector led mob, or burning to death.

You should be literally jumping for glee on the caskets of the dead, right?


33 posted on 05/02/2014 1:10:18 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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This is spreading to more news sources...


34 posted on 05/02/2014 1:11:38 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Tweet from “Russian Markets”. Normally comments on Russian economic issues:

-40 people burnt alive in Odessa. Now NATO-media has a huge problem cause thanks to their weapon Social Media we all witness WHO & HOW did it

A note again about how we live in a digital age, and nothing happens in the darkness, anymore.


35 posted on 05/02/2014 1:14:19 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

This is not a go to heck moment but the bell is ringing (imho).


36 posted on 05/02/2014 1:20:24 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: tcrlaf

I’ve personally seen the graves in Europe for those murdered by Russians. They have a long history of abusing and murdering their neighbors. So does Putin. This just the latest chapter.

Spare me the feigned outrage. There was nothing from you when the councilman was mutiliated and murdered in Horlivka. Nothing from you when the peaceful marchers were brutally assaulted on monday in Donetsk. You are loving this tragedy.


37 posted on 05/02/2014 1:22:04 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

makes me ask a question ... Wonder what our so-called leaders are about to do? Not a go to heck moment but with what is breaking on their lies ... expect anything while I pray No, Not Now Lord. Let Americans have the truth first, please ... Amen.


38 posted on 05/02/2014 1:23:07 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
A small incident here, a small incident there, pretty soon you got WWIII on your hands.

5.56mm

39 posted on 05/02/2014 1:24:17 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: tcrlaf

Those weren’t “kids”, they were full grown adults who were paid and brought into Odessa with the purpose of creating mayhem and to serve their masters in Moscow. With them in the building where they had holed themselves in were a number of firearms. They had been shooting firearms from the roof of the building. They killed people with that gunfire. They threw rebar from the roof of the building, severely injuring people in the street. They threw Molotov cocktails from the building at the crowd below. This is hardly the work of innocents. It’s terrible that people died today in Odessa, especially peaceful Ukrainians who were not expecting a band of violent people armed by Moscow. As for those in the building, they have no one to blame but themselves.


40 posted on 05/02/2014 1:28:05 PM PDT by Agog
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