Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


1 posted on 04/21/2014 4:21:54 AM PDT by Kaslin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last
To: Kaslin

Oops!


2 posted on 04/21/2014 4:26:50 AM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
Politicians stuck on stupid.

One farmer here in Upsate NY said he bought up all the acreage he could and only farms corn to feed the nearby ethanol plant.

He was growing beans, tomatoes, broccoli, beets....every other vegie there is....No more....

And when the ethanol stops he can go back to growing his usual crops.

It's like the bean sprout binge.

3 posted on 04/21/2014 4:31:47 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

This ethanol fiasco will rank right with the EPA polluting our ground water by requiring MBTE be added to gasoline. These uneducated quacks have done more damage to the environment than tracking ever could and have cost our economy billions.

The EPA was Nixon’s worst idea. He should have been impeached for that, rather than the penny-ante Watergate affair. Obama has demonstrated how a corrupt president can operate against his enemies with the full force of the law and get away with it.


4 posted on 04/21/2014 4:34:59 AM PDT by txrefugee
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

I’ve had two cars and one truck (2005,2009 Honda - 2010 F150).

All three have had absolutely no mechanical problems except that the 02 sensors for the catalytic converter always came up bad on the “check engine” fault. One or two of them would usually clear itself after about 3 days. Every time you take it to the dealer they wanted to replace the sensor, but that doesn’t work because it starts doing the same thing again.

It got so bad I read up on it. Many wideband 02 sensors are affected negatively by ethanol, some of the narrow band sensors, too. I’ve also had to rebuild virtually every carburetor on my 2 cycle home/yard tools because of it. It virtually melts thin gaskets, O-rings, and plastic breather films in them. It is more than likely it has the same affects on a car/truck.

I finally broke down and bought an OBDII-CAN handheld scanner that I keep in my console to connect up to the cable that I have permanently installed in the OBDII connector. I just scan and reset - about once every two weeks.

The only benefit that ethanol has is for the people that are in the corn chain. This is about SUBSIDIES - MONEY, nothing else. From the farmers that get paid more to divert their corn from the food supply, to the middlemen that mark it up and pass it on off to ethanol producers.

It’s a SCAM and a travesty. Now we hear it doesn’t even help the environment. Gee, thanks Government!


6 posted on 04/21/2014 4:40:27 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

I did this study 25 years ago.

With Ethanol, my mileage was reduced by 15%, so, with a 15% Ethanol fuel ix, my “pollutants per mile” remained unchanged.

Where’s my $500 Grand?!?!?!?


7 posted on 04/21/2014 4:40:45 AM PDT by G Larry (There's the Beef!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

I really don’t believe it was ever about greenies—they were duped by those who wanted to control the food supply. Maybe I should take my tinfoil hat off?


8 posted on 04/21/2014 4:47:41 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
Well, this is going to be a heartbreaker for the hysterical global warming crowd.

They won't care. They've already made up their minds, and no amount of science is going to dissuade them. Keep in mind that these same environazis have no problem with Canada shipping Alberta oil to be used in China where no environmental controls exist. No efforts will be made to remove the sulfur in the refining process. Yet you hear no complaints from the left.

The bottom line here is that this has nothing at all to do with the environment and everything to do with leveling the playing field so that the rest of the world receives the access to petro-energy that the US has previously enjoyed.

15 posted on 04/21/2014 5:10:38 AM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

Got to be careful with this. If this makes sense to you, they are hopeful you will begin discussing this study. If you do, you are subtly accepting the premise there is man-made global warming. This is a subliminal attack...because as you discuss this, you are accepting the subliminal premise and the conversation begs you to give a solution to replacing ethanol to stop global warming. Any resulting discussion, as it does in this article, makes the solution one of finding a better alternative [to stop global warming]. Don’t accept the premise no matter how it is sugar-coated or you will end up supporting the premise that there is man made global warming.


16 posted on 04/21/2014 5:22:15 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

They have known this for more than ten years, but the politicans are talking about adding more ethanol. They committed themselves to ethanol, but when it turned out to provide more pollution than gasoline, they chose to ignore that fact. Politicians are never wrong. They never make mistakes. Don’t look for them to make this right any time in the near future.


18 posted on 04/21/2014 5:35:23 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

Does this mean we will all get a refund for all the extra money we had to pay when it came to filling up the tank?


21 posted on 04/21/2014 5:39:43 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

Nanny staters have trouble making up their minds, swaying whichever way the wind blows.


22 posted on 04/21/2014 5:58:35 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

I want to know why shameless liberals never lose credibility over this.

The same office liberal who thinks I’m the devil, because I don’t like ethanol, will still think I’m the devil because I don’t believe in global warming.

They have no concept of losing credibility.


25 posted on 04/21/2014 6:16:16 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

As one person put it back in the 80’s, “Using ethanol to stretch your gasoline supply is like using Filet Mignon to stretch your hamburger supply.”......................


28 posted on 04/21/2014 6:21:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (Soon there will be another American Civil War. Will make the first one seem like a Tea Party........)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

“A $500,000 study paid for by the federal government and released Sunday in the peer-reviewed journal Nature Climate Change concludes that biofuels made with corn residue release 7 percent more greenhouse gases in the early years compared with conventional gasoline.”

That’s OK. They’ll get special double secret dispensation like the migratory bird mix masters do.


29 posted on 04/21/2014 6:24:12 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

Is someone keeping a list of major government mandated policy failures?

Democratcare, the Food Pyramid, and now ethanol when will the people learn that crony-run government is wasteful tyranny?


30 posted on 04/21/2014 6:26:10 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

Big Government Programs Last Forever.

It doesn’t matter how much damage they do. You cannot kill them.


32 posted on 04/21/2014 6:36:27 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a Child Rapist and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

This may be a new study, but it isn’t new information. Unlike global warming, where dire predictions don’t pan out, predictions about the downside of using ethanol as a major fuel source have come true. This study proves the obvious, but is it enough to stop the craziness? Without crazy, where would Democrats be, and they have so many subsidized farmers and the ethanol industry voting for the craziness?


33 posted on 04/21/2014 6:36:46 AM PDT by pallis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
These ethanol plants could be converted to vodka distilleries. The U.S. could then flood the world market with high-quality, low-priced vodka until Putin cries “Uncle!”
40 posted on 04/21/2014 7:22:51 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

Grain lobby got what it wanted, corn in gas and a carb heavy “Food Pyramid”. Neither were good for America but it probably benefited politicians and grain producers.

No food for oil.


43 posted on 04/21/2014 7:58:08 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

Note The Insult to the Olfactory senses is acutely rank!

Please be done with this faux corporatist GR$$N Dream!


46 posted on 04/21/2014 8:39:42 AM PDT by philly-d-kidder (AB-Sheen"The truth is the truth if nobody believes it,a lie is still a lie, everybody believes it")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-25 next last

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson