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1 posted on 02/09/2014 8:41:07 AM PST by Arthurio
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How are the teachers judged as “effective”. Isn’t it by the results of the students? Perhaps there is some disparity in the students in the various schools.


34 posted on 02/09/2014 9:20:27 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor)
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Now, let’s talk about the races of the teachers who are rated at the bottom of the list and in what percentages they fall. Or would that be racist of me to ask?


35 posted on 02/09/2014 9:24:55 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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Applicants to “Education” degrees typically score in the lowest 25 percentile.

Regardless of skin color, kids are being taught by the lowest intellect graduates to continue the dumbing down of American society so to be more acceptable to socialist tyranny.


36 posted on 02/09/2014 9:29:33 AM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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Classes should consist of teachers to monitor and answer questions and a large screen TV of the best of the best teaching the class. There are teachers who hit it out of the park and the Bueller....Bueller......Bueller type.


38 posted on 02/09/2014 9:31:39 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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So let me get this straight, study and hard work are dependent on the teacher? If Whites or Asians are doing well, it has to be because they were given superior teachers? The only reason Black inner city kids can’t read when they graduate high school is because the teachers failed them?

LMAO

Has Ebonics taught these people nothing?

Black inner city youth do excel in whatever they want to excel in. If it’s sports, they excel. If it’s music, they excel. If it’s the gangsta life style, they excel.

The sad fact is, the norms of the rest of society in too many instances, isn’t what the Black inner city kid wants to excel in.

Proper English in many instances doesn’t matter. Math in many instances doesn’t matter. Business administration type studies, just doesn’t appeal to them.

People, no matter their race, will excel in what they want to excel in. It’s the goals people. Do Whites, Asians, and inner city Blacks have the same goals? I don’t honestly think they do.

This isn’t intended to be a put-down. Blacks have a right to decide what their own goals are. It isn’t for me to tell them they are failing themselves. At some point it has to dawn on them. They have to be the ones to raise the level of their goals.

In the interest of fair play, a lot of Whites don’t develop goals and seek to achieve them in life. It’s my take that leaders in all groups are critical to the success of the youth of that group.

If there are a lot of leaders that are leading kids off track in these groups, it is up to the community to rid themselves of those people. Until then, not much is going to change.

Better teachers? LMAO


39 posted on 02/09/2014 9:42:45 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
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Black and Latino students are more likely to get ineffective teachers in Los Angeles schools
So you mean the teachers that the teachers union protects, hides and continues to pay becuase of thier past disgressions or the teachers who refuse to take thier lives in thier hands when going to work with students who dont want to learn and would rather sell drugs on the corner, those teachers?


40 posted on 02/09/2014 9:43:01 AM PST by ronnie raygun (zippy the a##clown sez..............................)
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Good teachers aren't going to stay at a school where they are subject to assault by ill behaved students. The only teachers that will tolerate that level of abuse are those that are so bad that they are unwanted elsewhere. Methinks the cause and effect has been jettisoned for a simplistic view of the result.
41 posted on 02/09/2014 9:44:50 AM PST by Myrddin
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It's impossible to be a great teacher in a classroom full of out-of-control young ones who have neither the desire nor reason to have to do well. It's been the question since I did teacher training in the 1960s "Do great students create great teachers, or do great teachers create great students?"

The ones that achieve in fragile schools might be set up with a select group of the best students.

43 posted on 02/09/2014 9:49:53 AM PST by grania
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Aside from casting blame on the teachers, there is also the persistent "achievement gap" that exists all over the country. It is a story repeated annually with a simple change of date on the document. It never changes. No matter how much money you throw at the problem, the "gap" remains. In this instance, the unfixable "gap" is being abused to cast blame on the teachers. The silk purse/sow's ear meme applies.
44 posted on 02/09/2014 9:50:32 AM PST by Myrddin
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Did anyone ask why ineffective teachers are being hired?


52 posted on 02/09/2014 10:24:19 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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I’m sure the outcome of this “study” was determined before the “data” was even examined. The study author just had to work with whatever data they could find until it supported the original hypothesis.

The biggest problem the race baiters face here is that teachers still have free will to leave a school with a bad social environment. They are not being good comrades for the greater good.


54 posted on 02/09/2014 10:31:16 AM PST by Avid Coug
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The employee of some university or other who did the study reminds me that during the civil rights revolution era a racist group declared the problem of scholastic differences could be solved by teaching white children all the wrong answers until a certain age. Then release them to be on their own.


59 posted on 02/09/2014 11:15:22 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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If Obama had a school system.


61 posted on 02/09/2014 11:18:23 AM PST by Organic Panic
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Meanwhile, De Blasio is trying to wipe out the charter school movement in NYC...because he says too many of the students are white.

At the same time, a “majority minority” girls charter high school in NYC is desperately asking him not to wipe them out, and many of the people who have protested against his plans have been black. Lower income Hispanic students whose families care often go to Catholic schools, but they are also under attack and the whole plan is to bring down all of the schools so they meet the New Communist Billion-Year Plan to “improve education” by collectively lynching schools that do well.

In fact, in his few weeks in office, De Blasio has even cut back or shut down good programs at public schools because they supposedly “disproportionately” benefit whites.


62 posted on 02/09/2014 11:18:36 AM PST by livius
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We have a communication problem, here.
AINT nothing like having two parents at home who are better educated than the children, and take the time to help their children with their school work, to make the teachers “smarter” and “better”.
I see that NYC is giving the non-union/non-government schools a hard time. Kinda like keeping a woman pregnant in the summer and barefoot in the winter isn’t it? AINT never going to be free.


63 posted on 02/09/2014 11:32:45 AM PST by BilLies ("Will none rid me of this lying bastard ?")
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Teachers are worthless without good parents.

But we aren’t allowed to talk about that.


64 posted on 02/09/2014 12:17:05 PM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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Translation: Teachers who prove themselves to be among the best get transferred to places where they are less likely to be assaulted and injured or killed. Sounds fair to me.


65 posted on 02/09/2014 12:25:26 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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