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Homophobia and intimacy in a Russian sauna (I like Russia more and more)
BBC Urals, Russia ^ | 1/17/2013 | By Justin Rowlatt

Posted on 01/18/2014 2:03:25 PM PST by RoosterRedux

A law in Russia banning "homosexual propaganda" has been condemned by critics, who say it incites hatred. But a day hunting and relaxing in the forest - and hearing some extreme views - suggests it has plenty of support.

Saunas are supposed to be relaxing but the prospect of this one filled me with dread.

I was to share it with two heavily armed Russian hunters - Yuri, a steely-eyed veteran of Russia's bloody war in Afghanistan, and Georgy, a burly businessmen who cut his teeth during the violent chaos that consumed Russia after the fall of communism.

That afternoon, with the first snows of the harsh Russian winter blowing in from Siberia, Yuri and Georgy had taken me into the forest. They'd pointed out fresh wolf and elk tracks in the snow - but there was no sign of the family of bears I'd heard lived nearby.

Yuri said our chatter had frightened off any game but he let me fire a few potshots with his formidable but fluffily-named hunting rifle, a Kalashnikov "Tigger".

As the sun set we'd dined on a great caldron of peppery soup made with pike caught in one of the nearby lakes. They'd produced a slab of what Russians call "salo", smoked pork fat which you eat raw, washed down with shots of vodka.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bathhousesex; bbcbias; communism; gayolympics; homosexualagenda; hunters; justinrowlatt; lavendermafia; pinkjournalism; publicsex; russia; russian; sex; siberia
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To: thecodont

And the men who lack such intimacy are much poorer for it.

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I absolutely agree. Many men only rely on women for friendship. Women make men poor friends out side of the bonds of marriage. And they are not enough inside the bonds of marriage IMHO.

I notice that my son’s male friends are always teasing each other about the other’s purported homosexuality.


41 posted on 01/18/2014 3:13:08 PM PST by Chickensoup (V)
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To: meatloaf

For sure!


42 posted on 01/18/2014 3:14:23 PM PST by Andy'smom
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To: GeronL
Anyone who likes to be naked with other people have a screw loose

That is probably not the best way to frame the issue.

I used to belong to a health club in Atlanta that had a great steam bath. The men that used it at the time of day I worked out were for the most part old cigar chomping businessmen.

They were probably retired and from a much older generation. They would sit in the steam bath and talk business (mostly stock market) and then run out for an ice cold shower and then back in for more steam. This was their idea of exercise (except for golf on the weekends).

They were as innocent as a bunch of 3 year olds. It was a joy being around a bunch of old goats my grandfather's age sitting in a steam bath with only a towel and talking about manly things (the stock market and cigars).

43 posted on 01/18/2014 3:18:28 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

sounds gross to me

lol


44 posted on 01/18/2014 3:28:56 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: amihow

Is it that easy to destroy a “deep” friendship? Not very deep, it seems to me.


45 posted on 01/18/2014 3:35:33 PM PST by Misterioso (All life is a purposeful struggle, and your only choice is the choice of a goal. - Ayn Rand)
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To: RoosterRedux
The whole article is about gay sex, not Russia, not hunting, not saunas. They are just pretexts. This speaks to the depravity of its readership/audience: the English public.

Georgy had shown me photos of his three-year-old son dressed up, just like dad, head to toe in combat gear and pointing a toy gun. With growing trepidation, I ask the obvious question - what if your son was gay?

Obvious question? In the author's perverted psychosphere, perhaps. If I was that father, I would have hit him instantly and instinctively.

46 posted on 01/18/2014 3:37:01 PM PST by Praxeologue
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To: GeronL

Anyone . . . have? Talk about a loose screw.


47 posted on 01/18/2014 3:37:05 PM PST by Misterioso (All life is a purposeful struggle, and your only choice is the choice of a goal. - Ayn Rand)
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To: Rome2000
If I’m whipping a chick with a birch twig in a sauna, things are going to get interesting.

Depends on the chick.


48 posted on 01/18/2014 3:39:10 PM PST by FredZarguna (Das is nicht richtig nur falsch. Das ist nicht einmal falsch.)
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To: livius

If being gay is thought to be a matter of choice, why are most straight men resistant to sleeping together in the same bed?


49 posted on 01/18/2014 3:44:39 PM PST by Misterioso (All life is a purposeful struggle, and your only choice is the choice of a goal. - Ayn Rand)
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To: GeronL
I think society thinks it is gross because of the impure thoughts that have been infused into our reality by gays.

Were it not for the perversion injected into our society, we would all just be hippopotami swimming in the river with our cousins and aunts and uncles...all butt nekid.;-)

50 posted on 01/18/2014 3:49:05 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: Olog-hai
I said nothing.

Brave Sir Robin ran away.

51 posted on 01/18/2014 3:49:39 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Misterioso
If being gay is thought to be a matter of choice, why are most straight men resistant to sleeping together in the same bed.

Personal boundary issues. Even healthy males (myself included) have a boundary around them which they will not permit being crossed (except by aunts...who seem to get away with it even when such is disliked).

52 posted on 01/18/2014 3:59:54 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: Misterioso

If one is afraid to publically demonstrate a close friendship then the lack of demonstration precludes the formation of them. In other words, the demonstration forges the deep bond.


53 posted on 01/18/2014 4:00:35 PM PST by amihow
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To: Misterioso

You are aware that most early cheap hotels in the US, particularly in frontier areas, had 2 or even 3 men sleeping in the same bed, no?

It’s more comfortable to sleep alone; if the only place you can sleep is in a bed with another person or persons of the same sex - or even of the opposite sex, in some places - that’s what you do. You’re sleeping with them, literally.

But if you don’t have to do it, you won’t. And now that the whole thing has been sexualized, nobody’s going to want to share a bed unless they’re unconscious and have been dragged in there from a blizzard.


54 posted on 01/18/2014 4:04:03 PM PST by livius
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To: Kennard
I think you are correct.

Which is why the article is provocative. After comments here on FR, I am beginning to wonder if the author didn't make this story up.

55 posted on 01/18/2014 4:05:55 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: livius
Note that in frigid temperatures, the sharing of body warmth can save a life (hence the name of the band "Three Dog Night"). That's how the squirrels in the trees around my house brave the winter chill.

That said, the perversion of sexuality by gays has caused us to forget the natural remedies.

56 posted on 01/18/2014 4:10:35 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

Nah, its wrong period.


57 posted on 01/18/2014 4:12:10 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: RoosterRedux
Why am I getting the impression that Russian men are more manly than Americans?

I suspect it's due to a harder lifestyle that's more geared toward survival than anything else.

As a side note, I have my eye on a PCP air rifle that just happens to be manufactured by a singular guy in Russia. It's called an "Edgun".........

58 posted on 01/18/2014 4:14:19 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
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To: GeronL

You didn’t feel that way when you were 1, 2, and 3 years old.


59 posted on 01/18/2014 4:14:52 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: livius

Thanks for your insights on the writer. I wanted to post that he was an idiot.


60 posted on 01/18/2014 4:17:48 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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