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Homophobia and intimacy in a Russian sauna (I like Russia more and more)
BBC Urals, Russia ^ | 1/17/2013 | By Justin Rowlatt

Posted on 01/18/2014 2:03:25 PM PST by RoosterRedux

A law in Russia banning "homosexual propaganda" has been condemned by critics, who say it incites hatred. But a day hunting and relaxing in the forest - and hearing some extreme views - suggests it has plenty of support.

Saunas are supposed to be relaxing but the prospect of this one filled me with dread.

I was to share it with two heavily armed Russian hunters - Yuri, a steely-eyed veteran of Russia's bloody war in Afghanistan, and Georgy, a burly businessmen who cut his teeth during the violent chaos that consumed Russia after the fall of communism.

That afternoon, with the first snows of the harsh Russian winter blowing in from Siberia, Yuri and Georgy had taken me into the forest. They'd pointed out fresh wolf and elk tracks in the snow - but there was no sign of the family of bears I'd heard lived nearby.

Yuri said our chatter had frightened off any game but he let me fire a few potshots with his formidable but fluffily-named hunting rifle, a Kalashnikov "Tigger".

As the sun set we'd dined on a great caldron of peppery soup made with pike caught in one of the nearby lakes. They'd produced a slab of what Russians call "salo", smoked pork fat which you eat raw, washed down with shots of vodka.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bathhousesex; bbcbias; communism; gayolympics; homosexualagenda; hunters; justinrowlatt; lavendermafia; pinkjournalism; publicsex; russia; russian; sex; siberia
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1 posted on 01/18/2014 2:03:25 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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The American obsession with sex has destroyed all innocent pleasures. People have been having saunas and whipping each other with birch twigs in icy climates for millennia, but it was not “homoeroticism” and was not even a lead up to homosexual behavior. I remember only a few decades ago in Spain that friends (two men, two women, etc.) used to walk around holding hands. Then suddenly this was interpreted as sexual. And now nobody would dare to do it.

This writer is an idiot, but a typical modern, Freudian idiot where everything is all about sex. (Although even Freud thought that homosexuality was the sign of an undeveloped personality.)


2 posted on 01/18/2014 2:15:28 PM PST by livius
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To: RoosterRedux
Think the reporter is more than just a bit biased, and eager to demonize his subjects?
“Why should the gay lifestyle be celebrated?” asked Georgy. “It is just disgusting. Gays should be killed,” he said, frowning. I said nothing. The already humid atmosphere became even closer. “They should be gassed,” he muttered, staring sulkily at the floor. He seemed to find the idea of homosexuality quite repulsive, even frightening.

I turned to Yuri, the Afghan war veteran. “We didn’t even know it existed when I was growing up in the Soviet Union,” he said. “Why would people want to do such a thing?” …

3 posted on 01/18/2014 2:18:26 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: livius

I’m thinking he’s a closet fudge packer.


4 posted on 01/18/2014 2:19:54 PM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: livius
Is there any doubt Evil has captured the world ?

No nation is immune and it only means Jesus can't be too far away.

5 posted on 01/18/2014 2:20:52 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: livius

As a 92 year old friend has said the homosexuals destroy deep same sex friendships.


6 posted on 01/18/2014 2:21:14 PM PST by amihow
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To: RoosterRedux

Where are all the Christian leaders in The USA on all these important Biblical Christian issues?

Seems to me that there is hardly any national Christian leader speaking on Biblical truths when it comes to Christian Social Issues.

Has everybody been brainwashed by Rick Warren,Joel Osteen and even the New Pope?

Show me a character from the Bible that ever played down our sins...You cant find one, Jesus never played down our sins either


7 posted on 01/18/2014 2:21:47 PM PST by Friendofgeorge ( Palin 2016 or bust)
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To: RoosterRedux

Every one in Russia knows Eldar Ryazanov’s “The Irony Of Fate.”

Its one of the best Soviet era classics, renowned for its golden age Russian pop songs and the comedic complications of the lead character - who is put on his friends on the plane after leaving the beloved banya, lands in Leningrad.

He arrives at home so to speak but doesn’t realize the apartment in Leningrad is exactly the same as his apartment back in Moscow - on the same street and it fits with the same key!

Its worth the price of admission for the world-famous opening animated montage, too good not to miss! Its a love story and its still shown every New Years’ on Russian television. It has the same meaning for Russians as “Its A Wonderful Life” does for Americans!


8 posted on 01/18/2014 2:22:31 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: livius

If I’m whipping a chick with a birch twig in a sauna, things are going to get interesting.


9 posted on 01/18/2014 2:22:51 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: RoosterRedux
...condemned by critics, who say it incites hatred...

No. Allowing homo "pride" parades while not giving permits for heterosexual pride parades ('cuz that would be mean and hateful!) incites hatred!!

10 posted on 01/18/2014 2:23:04 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: meatloaf

I got that vibe too.


11 posted on 01/18/2014 2:24:48 PM PST by Politicalkiddo (Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it. -M. Twain)
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To: livius

This reporter kills me. So he waits until they’re all sitting around naked in the sauna to bring up the gay issues? And then wonders why they obviously feel uncomfortable discussing it? He’s lucky he didn’t get his lights punched out.


12 posted on 01/18/2014 2:27:20 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Anyone who likes to be naked with other people have a screw loose


13 posted on 01/18/2014 2:28:02 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Olog-hai
I think the reporter is gay but didn't have the guts to tell his hosts or his readers.

Like Yuri, I didn't even know it existed when I was a kid and I was grossed out when I heard about it.

14 posted on 01/18/2014 2:28:13 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: livius
This writer is an idiot, but a typical modern, Freudian idiot where everything is all about sex. (Although even Freud thought that homosexuality was the sign of an undeveloped personality.)

I think it was Freud's cocaine usage that fueled his fascination with sex (same pleasure center bombardment with addictive substances). But I do agree completely with him that homosexuality is a developmental problem.

15 posted on 01/18/2014 2:32:08 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

I agree with you.


16 posted on 01/18/2014 2:37:26 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: GeronL

Well, for those of us married people, there are exceptions.

Or rather one.


17 posted on 01/18/2014 2:37:58 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

I have a feeling you know what I meant. :p


18 posted on 01/18/2014 2:38:53 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: amihow; livius
As a 92 year old friend has said the homosexuals destroy deep same sex friendships.

Didn't C.S. Lewis write that also? I think I read that somewhere.

19 posted on 01/18/2014 2:39:04 PM PST by thecodont
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To: RoosterRedux

The people of most countries are great people. It is their governments that suck. Look at ours.


20 posted on 01/18/2014 2:39:27 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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