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Plane crashes, woman dies, survivor films and takes selfie
CNET ^ | 10 January 2014 | Chris Matyszczyk

Posted on 01/10/2014 1:52:43 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty

A month after a small plane crash in Hawaii, a surviving passenger shows GoPro footage and even a selfie taken during the ordeal.

Would you have done the same? Ferdinand Puentes was one of nine passengers in a 2002 Cessna Grand Caravan which suddenly suffered engine failure off Kalaupapa, Molokai in Hawaii last month. As he heard the engine fail and saw the plane heading for the water, one of his first instincts was to turn on his GoPro camera and film what might have been his own demise. As KHON-TV reports, Puentes knew the danger he was in, yet the decision to film as much as possible might perplex a few. He managed to get out of the plane alive and survived the crash. However, while he was floating on a seat cushion and wearing his life raft, he took a selfie.
Was the impulse to record just a natural reaction? After all, any bystander or news organization would have likely done the same thing. And these days everyone is using their phones to film just about everything they see. But wouldn't one's first instinct be to try to contact family and friends to say goodbye? Perhaps that did happen. The footage reflects a quite stunning lack of panic. The passengers behave in an orderly manner. There is no screaming or pushing. No one seems frantic at all. Loretta Fuddy, Hawaii's 65-year-old state director of health, died in the crash, despite managing to leave the plane. In watching Puentes talk to KHON-TV, though, it's evident that the footage brings back painful memories. Would everyone want to have such ready access to a reminder? Or would some prefer to forget? "You could have died," Puentes told KHON-TV. "There's so much variations that could have happened for the worse."


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barrycide; birthcertificate; ferdinandpuentes; fuddy; hawaii; kenyanbornmuzzie; lorettafuddy; maui; naturalborncitizen; planecrash; puentes; selfie; survivors
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To: justiceseeker93
I compare the outfit in the photo
http://www.khon2.com/news/photo-shows-fuddys-last-moments-on-molokai
with the one in the video of the passengers before the crash
http://abcnews.go.com/US/harrowing-video-hawaiian-plane-crash-inside-cabin/story?id=21484715

then just used zoom on the outside pic.

You can see a patch of clothes on the passenger by the door that is similar in design to the outfit she was wearing.
I can't really see anything else, except some hair. I think the woman looking into the camera looks like Fuddy, but I guess it is someone else, because she doesn't have on the same clothes that Fuddy was supposedly wearing. Even if Fuddy took off her overshirt, the shirt under it (dark pinkish purple) doesn't look like what the women in the foreground is wearing.

Does anyone have a list of the passengers? Were there three women or more?

161 posted on 01/11/2014 10:38:34 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: Nero Germanicus
Andrew Brietbart’s toxicology report took about six weeks.

I'm not sure I'd use Brietbart as an example of how a post mortum should be performed. Although the results in this case should be the same.

162 posted on 01/11/2014 10:45:46 AM PST by PAR35
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To: butterdezillion

Maybe that’s a guy not a gal? Water swept hair making him look like a female?


163 posted on 01/11/2014 11:14:08 AM PST by Felis cactus II
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To: LucyT

Man everybody was quiet! But how did Fuddy die in that?


164 posted on 01/11/2014 11:27:55 AM PST by autumnraine
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To: matt1234; hoosiermama; Fantasywriter; butterdezillion; LucyT

Matt1234, many thanks for the info !

Hoosiermama, butterdezillion ,Fantasywriter, LucyT

Hoosiermama

Re: your take on why the autopsy delay/not determined

Maybe the deputy was ummmm, ambitious?

My spidey sense meter is in the red zone :0


165 posted on 01/11/2014 11:30:19 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: EEGator
"This “conspiracy theory” is one of the stupidest I’ve ever seen on FR".

Nobody is forcing you to read this thread.

166 posted on 01/11/2014 11:30:22 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict; All
The woman in the foreground in the picture posted in # 45 - third person from the right - seems to be wearing no clothing on top at all at that point.

One would think that there would be only a small probability that among only eight passengers aboard that flight, there would be two different white females who are obese and have auburn hair.

Agree with you that Fuddy was wearing the same outfit in the photo taken on the island before takeoff as she was when seated in the passenger cabin in the second row, left seat.

Also, would you agree that the man floating in the foreground after the crash, second person from the right in the photo in # 45, is Keith Yamamoto (who, BTW, said he was right next to Fuddy after the the crash)?

167 posted on 01/11/2014 11:33:10 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: WildHighlander57

All we officially know is that the autopsy was inconclusive & that the delay in releasing it is tied to ongoing interviews w the survivors who were in the water w Fuddy. That is the extent of the official announcement & explanations so far. Ppl w their own agenda have decided that ‘cause of death undetermined’ means, ‘determined but not announced’ or that, ‘it takes time to interview the crash survivors’ means, ‘we’re waiting on the toxicology report’.

You can tell who is spinning furiously by the degree to which they rewrite the official pronouncements. Though of course if anybody has an actual link saying the autopsy pinned down the cause of death but the announcement is being delayed, or that it will be released as soon as the toxicology report is finished, it changes things. So far, no such link has surfaced.


168 posted on 01/11/2014 11:43:26 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: machogirl
Twenty (20) pages of google results and I still can’t find the names of the other two passengers. Weird. Media is always all over these crashes to be first with the names so they can ask the relatives, “how they feel”.

IIRC from one of the many articles I've read on this, one of the passengers was the pilot's son. Perhaps they don't release his name because he wasn't a paid passenger on the manifest. The second passenger without a name may be a friend of the pilot's son. Just a guess, but it might fit the scenario.

169 posted on 01/11/2014 11:48:35 AM PST by Balata (Obama is a Lying Fraud, and so are his followers!)
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To: Balata

Adding what appears to be passenger number seven from the article provided in the link.

A pilot and 8 passengers; one of which was a swimmer-

Pilot————Clyde Kawasaki, age 60
Passenger # 1 Loretta Fuddy, age 65, Hawaii State Health Director.
Passenger # 2 Keith Yamamoto, Fuddy’s Deputy Director.
Passenger # 3 Rosa Key, wife of Jacob Key, from Oahu.
Passenger # 4 Jacob Key, husband of Rosa Key, from Oahu.
Passenger # 5 C. Phillip Hollstein Jr., age 70, swimmer, from Kailua.
Passenger # 6 Ferdinand Puentes, onboard impromptu videographer.
Passenger # 7 Rev. Patrick Kililea. Comments as to witnessing Fuddy’s release from Yamamoto.
Passenger # 8

http://www.worldtribune.com/2014/01/10/the-strange-death-of-hawaiis-department-of-health-director-loretta-fuddy/


170 posted on 01/11/2014 11:53:59 AM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: Balata

The Rev. was installed on the island with the leper colony. He would have every reason to be onboard the plane.

Seems his name is spelled Killilea. I believe he’s Irish. The name looked Hawaiian. Ha! I tried something very simple- placed his name with title in a search engine. I’ll have to do lots more of that some other time.

http://themolokainews.com/2012/05/18/kalaupapa-to-receive-a-new-pastor-in-july/


171 posted on 01/11/2014 11:56:17 AM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: machogirl

See post #170 & #171.


172 posted on 01/11/2014 11:57:57 AM PST by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: freepersup
Thanks, I'm not sure Rev. Patrick Kililea was on-board though.I think we might have two unknowns. Didn't someone say the pilot's son was on-board?

From the Daily Mail, we have Rev Kililea recounting what Yamamoto said to the priest. I thought Kililea was on shore and came to the area because he was a priest. If he was on the plane as the World Tribune indicates, he would have seen Yamamoto helping directly and wouldn't be recounting what Yamamoto said.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2536931/New-footage-shows-harrowing-moment-small-plane-crashed-Hawaii-killed-woman-published-President-Obamas-birth-certificate.html

In the water, Fuddy held hands with her deputy director Keith Yamamoto as he tried to help her relax, said the Rev. Patrick Killilea, who consoled Yamamoto after the ordeal.

‘He recounted how he said he helped Loretta into her life jacket and he held her hand for some time,’ the priest said. ‘They were all floating together and she let go and there was no response from her.’

173 posted on 01/11/2014 12:15:27 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: justiceseeker93

I cropped, enlarged and posted the image (twice) of the two people by the door, looks to me like Fuddy’s on the left and the person holding her hand has to be her assistant. The woman closer to the camera with wet hair seems to be one of the unnamed passengers.


174 posted on 01/11/2014 12:24:09 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: justiceseeker93

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3110483/posts?page=138#138

two people by the door


175 posted on 01/11/2014 12:26:35 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: FR_addict; matt1234; LucyT; hoosiermama; All
Another possible interpretation of the image at # 45 is this: The third person from the right could have her clothing hidden by a floatation device of a somewhat different color than the bright yellow ones used by the other passengers, placed around the back of her neck and covering her right shoulder and upper right arm. If this were true, it could be Fuddy. Recall that Yamamoto said he was alongside her at that point and the second person from the right is likely Yamamoto.
176 posted on 01/11/2014 12:28:51 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: FR_addict

I feel it’s my duty to point out stupidity.

Feel free to post one actual bit of evidence that Fuddy was murdered...or not.


177 posted on 01/11/2014 12:29:16 PM PST by EEGator
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To: justiceseeker93
“... two different white females who are obese and have auburn hair.”

I think Fuddy does look like the woman in the foreground. That's why I originally thought it was Fuddy, but now think she is at the airplane door. (The outfit is the only reason, I changed my mind). It could be a friend of hers that accompanies her on the trip.

Here's a picture of Keith Yamamoto:
http://www.hawaiireporter.com/keith-yamamoto-new-hawaii-deputy-health-director/123

I thought the one who looks like he is getting life preservers ready was the pilot. Part of his face is obscure though.

178 posted on 01/11/2014 12:29:51 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

You can tell which on she is by her hair, which is still dry. She's on the left by the door.

179 posted on 01/11/2014 12:43:56 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: justiceseeker93
When you look at pictures of Loretta Fuddy, the lady in the foreground really does look like the same person. But the outfit is not right. Maybe a relative of Fuddy’s.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/12/loretta-fuddy_n_4433761.html

180 posted on 01/11/2014 12:44:30 PM PST by FR_addict
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