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Plane crashes, woman dies, survivor films and takes selfie
CNET ^ | 10 January 2014 | Chris Matyszczyk

Posted on 01/10/2014 1:52:43 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty

A month after a small plane crash in Hawaii, a surviving passenger shows GoPro footage and even a selfie taken during the ordeal.

Would you have done the same? Ferdinand Puentes was one of nine passengers in a 2002 Cessna Grand Caravan which suddenly suffered engine failure off Kalaupapa, Molokai in Hawaii last month. As he heard the engine fail and saw the plane heading for the water, one of his first instincts was to turn on his GoPro camera and film what might have been his own demise. As KHON-TV reports, Puentes knew the danger he was in, yet the decision to film as much as possible might perplex a few. He managed to get out of the plane alive and survived the crash. However, while he was floating on a seat cushion and wearing his life raft, he took a selfie.
Was the impulse to record just a natural reaction? After all, any bystander or news organization would have likely done the same thing. And these days everyone is using their phones to film just about everything they see. But wouldn't one's first instinct be to try to contact family and friends to say goodbye? Perhaps that did happen. The footage reflects a quite stunning lack of panic. The passengers behave in an orderly manner. There is no screaming or pushing. No one seems frantic at all. Loretta Fuddy, Hawaii's 65-year-old state director of health, died in the crash, despite managing to leave the plane. In watching Puentes talk to KHON-TV, though, it's evident that the footage brings back painful memories. Would everyone want to have such ready access to a reminder? Or would some prefer to forget? "You could have died," Puentes told KHON-TV. "There's so much variations that could have happened for the worse."


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barrycide; birthcertificate; ferdinandpuentes; fuddy; hawaii; kenyanbornmuzzie; lorettafuddy; maui; naturalborncitizen; planecrash; puentes; selfie; survivors
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To: machogirl
Since everyone looked relatively well (except for the bloody pilot)...

Precisely. Plus I found it odd that there was no panicking, screaming, etc. when the plane hit the water. Everyone put on their vests just like they were supposed to and left the plane in an orderly fashion. Like Stepford people. Just didn't seem *normal*.

121 posted on 01/10/2014 9:50:21 PM PST by azishot
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To: butterdezillion
That's Fuddy by the door, wearing her fully inflated lifejacket over her purple and white sweater, her hair is dry and there's no way she's going to drown...


122 posted on 01/10/2014 9:53:05 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: butterdezillion; Fantasywriter; LucyT

Do either of you have experience as a life guard. One of the dangers of trying to rescue a person that in their panic the person being rescued pulls the person rescuing them down (holding on to them) and drowns their rescuER. It’s natural instinct to grab hold of anything close by
Did Yamamoto grab hold of fuddy and in his panic drown her? Seems like it would fit into his story if he not she was needing calming. Do we have a bit of transference going on here?


123 posted on 01/10/2014 9:53:26 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: azishot

From Lucy T’s link to the youtube vid, Robin (the anchor that just came out as a lesbian) said the plane was “spiraling”. If that was the case, the plane I presume would have broken apart upon hitting the water resulting in severe injuries and the pilot would have been unable to GLIDE down.

It almost looked like a training exercise.

I didn’t hear one swear word either.


124 posted on 01/10/2014 9:56:15 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: hoosiermama

That’s an interesting theory. If Fuddy had drowned, however, the autopsy wd have discovered a definite cause of death. The claim is that the autopsy proved inconclusive. Either they are lying, or Fuddy did not die of drowning.


125 posted on 01/10/2014 9:58:54 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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Twenty (20) pages of google results and I still can’t find the names of the other two passengers. Weird. Media is always all over these crashes to be first with the names so they can ask the relatives, “how they feel”.


126 posted on 01/10/2014 9:59:05 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: hoosiermama; butterdezillion

I didn’t learn to swim until I took swimming lessons in my late twenties. Even today, I wouldn’t attempt to save anyone from drowning unless they are in the kiddy pool.


127 posted on 01/10/2014 10:01:44 PM PST by LucyT ( If you're NOT paranoid, you don't know what's going on.)
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To: hoosiermama

I had water rescue training with a “victim” that was fighting to stay afloat using the rescuer (me) to climb on.

Essentially you have to grab the person by the chin (they are on their back floating) and you tow them (by hand/arm) around their chin while rescuer kicks to shore. A person in a panic can drown the rescuer.


128 posted on 01/10/2014 10:02:30 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: hoosiermama

If they stayed that close to the plane there would be a bit of suction pulling them down as the plane sank


129 posted on 01/10/2014 10:05:34 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama

If they stayed that close to the plane there would be a bit of suction pulling them down as the plane sank


130 posted on 01/10/2014 10:05:34 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: machogirl

Robin’s a typical *news reader*. They like to use dramatic words. No way was that plane spiraling. And, yes it DID look like a training exercise.


131 posted on 01/10/2014 10:06:52 PM PST by azishot
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To: machogirl

Precisely. So their pulled under with the sinking of the plane of the assistant holds on to her causing her death. If not by drowning what? Strangulation?


132 posted on 01/10/2014 10:11:48 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Fantasywriter

Of they’re buying time hoping that the assistant messes up his rehearsed story. Piecing together the film and other survivors stories. Hoping to break him


133 posted on 01/10/2014 10:15:53 PM PST by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: LucyT; butterdezillion; Fred Nerks

They showed the entire video on ABC Nightline tonight, narrated by the photographer.

They said Fuddy was not calm, like the others. I don’t know how they came to that conclusion. Seems odd, since they say that people feel a sense of calmness from Subud.


134 posted on 01/10/2014 10:18:55 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

LOL! Subud...let yourself go to that bright light and float away in perfect peace...and she did.


135 posted on 01/10/2014 10:22:05 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

“Is there really ANY doubt that she was “silenced” because she knew too much about Hussein’s birth records?”

None at all, ashe was murdered.

There is no reason for anyone to die when a plane is ditched in the water, at least from the landing.


136 posted on 01/10/2014 10:22:49 PM PST by dalereed
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To: hoosiermama

If you don’t grab the flailer by the chin (firmly, you go under them and turn them around by the legs first), they will drag you under trying to climb on you. The hope is once they are firmly in your grasp, floating on their back while you kick/stroke towing them in, they will calm down.


137 posted on 01/10/2014 10:24:54 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: butterdezillion; All
Take a good close look at the two people by the door, the one on the right IS holding Fuddy's hand:


138 posted on 01/10/2014 10:26:27 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: All

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It’s crazy what people say of the still pictures I plucked out of the video of the crash. They don’t know that I was video recording of the surroundings around me. They don’t know until they put themselves in my spot.


139 posted on 01/11/2014 4:48:27 AM PST by maggief
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To: faucetman
You're talking about the woman looking at the camera. I just searched for images of Loretta Fuddy. It sure looks like her to me. She certainly doesn't look like she is any major distress.

They all look pretty calm. I don't see a life jacket on her though. But it looks like they were still in the process of putting them on. The guy is getting his on.

You would think the reporters would point out who this woman is. I think it is very suspicious that she would die and no one is even curious what happened to her.

140 posted on 01/11/2014 6:04:45 AM PST by FR_addict
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