[tomkat]

I vote for sooner, rather than later.

[GeronL]

Leftists will never allow us outside of their grip

[rockinqsranch]

“...My personal preference is a restoration of the constitutional values of limited government that made us a great nation.”

Amen, and I do believe that is the preference of all my fellow FReepers as well.

[Jack Hydrazine]

Related...

Poll: 70 percent have no confidence in government
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3107712/posts

[Jim Robinson]

"Article I, Section 8 of our Constitution lists the activities for which Congress is authorized to tax and spend. Nowhere on that list is there authority for Congress to tax and spend for: Medicare, Social Security, public education, farm subsidies, bank and business bailouts, food stamps and thousands of other activities that account for roughly two-thirds of the federal budget. Neither is there authority for congressional mandates to citizens about what type of health insurance they must purchase, how states and people may use their land, the speed at which they can drive, whether a library has wheelchair ramps, and the gallons of water used per toilet flush. The list of congressional violations of both the letter and spirit of the Constitution is virtually without end. Our derelict Supreme Court has given Congress sanction to do just about anything for which they can muster a majority vote.

James Madison, the acknowledged father of the Constitution, explained in Federalist Paper No. 45: "The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce. ... The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State."

Amen, amen, amen. I've been trying to hammer these points home for a long, long time.

[greene66]

What was once far-fetched is gettin’ real.

The “split” scenario is surfacing more and more into the mainstream. I’d vote to seceed apart from the Obama-voting fag-marriage states in a split second.

[Domandred]

Liberty loving conservative Christian valued Americans can get along fine without liberals, and prosper doing it.

Conversely liberals wouldn’t survive a year without us.

[slouper]

Water the Tree of Liberty.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Is there any divorced Freeper who regrets his or her divorce?

I doubt it.

[Count of Monte Fisto]

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another,

Americans have become so politically and culturally divided, for example, if you aren't revolted by Pajamaboy you are as foreign to me as a heart ripping Aztec, that we should consider ourselves separate and distinct peoples. Separate people that need separate governments and separate countries.

[TBP]

We need to destroy the left.

[Secret Agent Man]

we have to end compromising.

compromising never gets us closer to our long term goals.

it always gets the libs closer to their long term goals.

enough. no more. fght for principles or step down and let someone who wants to, fight.

[Windflier]

"We can like sheep submit to those who have contempt for liberty and our Constitution.

We can resist, fight and risk bloodshed and death in an attempt to force America's tyrants to respect our liberties and Constitution.

A superior alternative is to find a way to peaceably separate into states whose citizens respect liberty and the Constitution.

My personal preference is a restoration of the constitutional values of limited government that made us a great nation."

Walter Williams must be reading the minds of every patriot in the country. Those four distinct outcomes are at the forefront of all of our thoughts these days.

I've contemplated them all, and like Walter Williams, I'd most prefer the fourth outcome in the list. I just don't see how we as a nation can get there, with half the population desiring a totalitarian Socialist system of government. They're never going to allow the rest of us to peacefully restore the nation to its constitutional moorings. In fact, the other side has done everything in their power to subvert the civil system to prevent that outcome.

What to do? We have to choose one of those paths and follow it with full self determination. If we don't choose one of those solutions and push toward realizing it, we will wind up in a situation that resembles a full blown Marxist dictatorship (and I don't mean the soft tyranny of Obama).

If we can't pull off the most desired outcome (and it looks more and more like we can't), then I'd say the next best solution is a peaceful separation.

Of course, secession by several red states would produce quite a lot of dislocation and social disturbance, but I don't see the type of federal response the nation witnessed in 1861. There simply isn't the political will to murder millions of fellow Americans over a purely political question of secession.

[M Kehoe]

CWII ping.

5.56mm

[Resolute Conservative]

The 17th amendment is an abomination to the states the FF did not intend to be enacted. The ensured state representation until big government goons got it passed.

[Albion Wilde]

Genius. Always has been; this time Williams has outdone even himself.

[MarineBrat]

If you ask a dog and his fleas to vote on whether or not to maintain their relationship, nobody wonders how that vote will go.

I’m perfectly willing to split the country right down the middle. They can have any half they want. Left, right, top, bottom, middle, edges.... I care not, just as long as I don’t have to live with parasites. But parasites do not willingly leave their hosts. Blood will need to be shed.

[ZX12R]

The commies would never go along with it. They need our money to sustain themselves for any length of time, like they are doing now. Almost all of the non-contributors are leftist libtards sucking government teat endlessly. They fail supremely and quickly without us.

It's not that they lack the ability to become contributing citizens, they lack the willingness to do so.

So, we're still facing violent means to affect any change.

[demshateGod]

I think this is the highest profile commentator I’ve read put it this bluntly. Those of us who want freedom, and understand that to be Man’s natural state, are running out of patience. There are just too many of us who won’t be pacified by Big Macs and cable tv.

[Cheerio]

The Liberty Amendments: Restoring the American Republic

IMHO as long as Boner is Weeper of the House this is our only answer left for saving the Republic.