Posted on 12/15/2013 2:03:12 PM PST by Hojczyk
The Republican Party has always represented a fusion of two broad groups: those who are driven by ideology and those who grew up in geographic areas that are traditionally Republican and joined the party because it was the obvious way to enter politics.
Call them the Nixon Republicans, these folks live in suburbs or small towns and represent the equivalent of the urban big city machines that spawn and nurture Democrats.
But this party could not get elected. It would not have defeated Jimmy Carter in 1980 or elected Ronald Reagan. It would not have been the vehicle for the Gingrich Revolution of 1994, nor would it have taken the House in 2010.
It required a Reagan, a Newt Gingrich, a Ted Cruz, a Paul Ryan, a Mike Huckabee, or the like to animate it, fill it with ideas and carry it to victory.
For Boehner to cast aside these party enthusiasts and conservative workhorses is shortsighted and ungrateful in the extreme.
The tea party types are amateurs. They are small businesspeople, retired military, doctors and so forth that are professionals in their occupations but amateurs in politics. We need to be patient with their learning curve. They learned a lesson in October when the government shutdown backfired. And they won’t make that mistake again. Indeed, their basic acceptance of the Ryan-Murray deal indicates precisely that growth of perspective and maturity.
In this light, the Speaker’s comments are outrageous and cast real doubt on his ability to lead the House in the future.
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I agree with your comments. In particular, Boehner has a lot of company, and the worst of it is in W., D. C.
They are going to have a hell of a time keeping people like me, a de-facto republican only because they are usually the better choice. For instance, this time Cornyn has a primary challenger (Steve Stockman, who sounds GREAT). I am sure that there other similar situations all over the country.
As for Boehner needing to leave his position as Speaker of the House, yes, that is necessary. It is not just that he has been ineffectual but he is attacking the dominant force in his own party. That is foolish and absolutely intolerable in a party leader. He stands to weaken fundraising and votes in one of the most favorable election seasons of this century. He is a danger to his own party and he is not alone. I occasionally try to figure out what these “leaders” are thinking and I can only suggest that they are driven by information from the DC media, demographic-based surveys (they measure inaccurate and unreliable independent variables, demographics, by the way), and consultants who have conflicts of interest. Those three sources together may seem compelling, until you get out past the edge of the city—then the world looks different.
As far as the Tea Party becoming more mature by recognizing that the shut down was a mistake, Morris is maligning the Tea Party. The Tea Party people did not shut down the government. Morris is supporting the leftist media narrative in stating so and thus weakening his position. That kind of thinking is a loser’s way of thinking. If the Dems can tout OWS in a favorable way and not feel a need to suggest that OWS members are getting more mature then sure as heck the R party need not criticize Tea Party people.
Of course, Tea Party people don’t need Morris’s approval.
Boehner and his colleagues are a serious threat to not only the R party but the nation’s government.
Better is OK. Just not lets us not destroy the Speaker we have now.
Name-calling and ad hominem attacks are of the leftists. We can do better than that.
Disagree on policy and let him know through his phone and email and etc. I do and will.
Do not attack the person. That is cowardly. And not charitable. ; )
I don’t know what will happen. All I know is that he is not conservative.
In Ohio news (Boehner's home state), gubernatorial Democrat candidate Ed FitzGerald (Cuyahoga County Executive) is the only serious contender v. Kasich so far, and he's already made the huge gaff of selecting Lt. Governor who withdrew from the race...but there's plenty of time for him to choose another "ticket balancer" (minority, south Ohio) running mate.
The point? If Kasich is not conservative enough for the conservatives, and gets primaried (?), or conservative votes are split with a Libertarian candidate, FitzGerald could easily end up being elected Governor of Ohio, which would be an unmitigated disaster. FG is the most ambitious, callow, and clueless "executive" you could imagine. Just saying.
“exactly what can realistically be accomplished with Harry Reid leading the Senate, and Obama/Biden (not Romney/Ryan) ruling from the White House, assisted by their cabinet and agency appointees who love rule-making more than anything.”
Exactly! Leadership is an art, not a science, and we are in uncharted territory. The events since the shut-down and o care rollout have been unexpected and unprecedented. No one can be expected to both adhere to the most purist of conservative policies, which we expect, AND win the political battles, which we ALSO expect!
Heaven Help Us and our leadership! We have had a decent showing . . . not ideal, not earth-shattering, not 0 repeal, but the groundwork has also been set.
I know I couldn’t have finessed it all any better. Go Cruz and etc. BTW!
“compared to Pelosi, its like night and day”
and the wicked witch is just itching to get back in power
so . . . vote in the primaries for your best candidate
but vote in the general election for the Republican caucus, even if you feel you have to hold your nose
because Pelosi and her lock-step caucus are FAR FAR worse, and would just love backbiting and infighting and purist voting to pave the way for her gleeful gavel pounding again. HEAVEN HELP US!
I know you are referring to Washington DC...but "the city" applies in many states...take a look at "red state/blue state" maps, county by county, district by district...and you'll know why Ohio voted to re-elect Obama (sickeningly)...and why national Representatives and Senators elect to "represent" their districts and states, and why the Tea Party and conservative voters are strong, but not yet enough of a majority.
Operative word: city
You mean that it's not?
Yes and no. I agree that the ad hominem attacks are counterproductive - and as for calling him “Boner” or any other offensive name - that simply tells me that the poster isn’t even worth reading. The same goes for posters who refer to Lindsey Graham as “Linda.” It only reveals the inadequacy of the poster.
However, Boehner has gone off the deep end. I don’t know who made him feel empowered and so confident in reading out the conservative wing, though. He needs to be called on this.
“He needs to be called on this.”
The conservative base certainly should reinforce his backbone by calling, emailing etc. He is OUR Speaker, and we need to let him know our policy positions! AND that we will support him during the political winds and chaos that now prevail and will prevail for some time. And also that we will not completely lose faith, if he does not follow each iota of our advice, for after all, there are winds a blowin’ in the inner bowells of politics that we cannot see, and that although he might be buffeted by them, we are also counting on and praying for him to hold the line to the best of his God-given ability.
As I mentioned, this is an unprecedented time. He did listen to the Tea Party and held during the shutdown, perhaps feels abandoned now.
HEY! Hold the line, Speaker Boehner!
I do not think he speaks from empowerment and confidence in questioning the base. The base has been questioning him. I think he needs empowerment FROM THE BASE, so that he is not tempted by other foul winds . . .
oh isn’t anything easy and straightforward any more?
well at least he isn’t Pelosi! ; )
Go ahead and disregard conservatives and a nation filled with tea party supporters Bonehead and find out what it costs you.
The arrogance and resultant stupidity of the mercenary paid hack political class all in one paragraph.
No, they are not "amateurs." They are citizens, members of the sovereign body of the people, the rulers of the United States of America.
What he is correct about though is that few of them as candidates have been prepped to put up with the withering MSM assault they invariably get.
A couple of afterthoughts?
No problem in the cases of Boner and McConnell.
Some people best serve as examples for the others.
my votes Ryan and Huckabee, though Ryan still maybe has potential. Huckabee is responsible for Romney being the last candidate. And he still won’t shut up! HA! Note no adhominem attacks. ; )
Here is the solution. Regain control of the Senate, then get rid of Boehner and elect a conservative as Speaker.
Ryan and Huckabee are Progressives.
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