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No, Obamacare Might Not Cover Your Preexisting Condition (Another Obama "misspoke" lie)
forbes ^ | 11/5/2013 | Robert Book

Posted on 11/05/2013 3:17:39 AM PST by tobyhill

How many times have we heard, over the last three and a half years, that one of the primary and most popular features of Obamacare is that no one could be denied coverage for a preexisting condition? It turns out that this is just another one of the false claims used to sell the public on a health care reform that seems to move every aspect of health care in the wrong direction.

The Affordable Care Act does indeed specify, in Section 1201, that “a health insurance issuer offering group or individual health insurance coverage may not impose any preexisting condition exclusion with respect to such plan or coverage.” In other words, a health plan cannot deny enrollment, or the plan’s benefits, to someone based on that person’s preexisting.

However, that is not the same as saying that a plan has to include coverage for any particular preexisting condition, and it certainly does not mean a plan has to include coverage for ongoing treatment that a patient started before obtain coverage in an exchange plan on January 1, 2014.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamacare
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1 posted on 11/05/2013 3:17:39 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Hahahaha! It gets funnier and funnier!


2 posted on 11/05/2013 3:20:56 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: tobyhill

So it turns out the biggest liberal selling point for Obamacare is LIE....

WHO KNEW????

SUCKERS.....


3 posted on 11/05/2013 3:21:00 AM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: tobyhill
Monty Python had a joke about a "No Payment" insurance policy:

"Well, you see, under this policy, no matter what happens to you, we won't pay anything."

4 posted on 11/05/2013 3:21:48 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: tobyhill

The Affordable Care Act does indeed specify, in Section 1201, that “a health insurance issuer offering group or individual health insurance coverage may not impose any preexisting condition exclusion with respect to such plan or coverage.” In other words, a health plan cannot deny enrollment, or the plan’s benefits, to someone based on that person’s preexisting.

However, that is not the same as saying that a plan has to include coverage for any particular preexisting condition, and it certainly does not mean a plan has to include coverage for ongoing treatment that a patient started before obtain coverage in an exchange plan on January 1, 2014.


And it’s all a lawyer’s wet dream. Weasel words and weasel intentions. How many of them have been seeing the bright new dawn of a golden age of litigation?


5 posted on 11/05/2013 3:22:31 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: tobyhill

I’m confused. So what this is saying is that NO ONE will be covered for these pre-existing conditions because those expensive-to-treat diseases won’t be covered by policies if insurance companies choose not to cover them in their policies? But they’ll be forced to cover Miranda’s birth control pills, Susie’s abortion, and Marco’s drug counseling?


6 posted on 11/05/2013 3:32:17 AM PST by grania
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To: tobyhill

NYT’s stays neutral with the wording mispoke instead of stepping up to the plate and say he lied! covering for commie


7 posted on 11/05/2013 3:34:39 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: ClearCase_guy

Monty Python had a joke about a “No Payment” insurance policy:
“Well, you see, under this policy, no matter what happens to you, we won’t pay anything.”

_______________________________________________________

I would much prefer THAT plan to the alternatives we are being saddled with.


8 posted on 11/05/2013 3:34:56 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: tobyhill

First the “stimulus” bankrupted the government, now ACA is bankrupting the individual. Look for the economy to tank.


9 posted on 11/05/2013 3:44:43 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: grania

The way I read it, “You’re on your death bed? No problem, sign right and you’re enrolled in our insurance policy. Oh, you want a particular painkiller to ease the pain? Sorry we don’t provided that particular one. But here’s a cyanide pill that tastes just like grape jelly. Try it...guaranteed to stop the pain.”


10 posted on 11/05/2013 3:45:59 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: tobyhill

As Chief Justice Roberts looks out over the coming sea of the dead and the dying, I wonder if he will be happy with his deal with the devil?


11 posted on 11/05/2013 3:49:07 AM PST by Truth29
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To: tobyhill

Client last week told me she is going to have switch doctors etc. after the new year. What is significant for her? She has major surgery next Monday and will need ongoing surgical care into the new year. Plus her employers plan premium tripled!

My point...it isn’t just the individual insurances getting screwed over like this article claims. It is happening across the board, even to those with employer plans.

My client plans to go out pocket to keep her current doctors. For me ...I suspect it means I lose my client to 0bamacare.


12 posted on 11/05/2013 4:12:55 AM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: tobyhill

Obama didn’t lie, he “overpromised” (LA Times euphemism).


13 posted on 11/05/2013 4:17:28 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: tobyhill

“Travis, if you like your dog, you can keep your dog” *

*Unless...


14 posted on 11/05/2013 4:19:05 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: tobyhill

BHO: “I did not put that in my Affordable Healthcare Act. It was put in there by the folks who wrote the 20,000 page regulations to my AHA.” That’s my lie and I’m sticking to it.


15 posted on 11/05/2013 4:33:49 AM PST by ImNotLying (Obama's Biggest Lie: If you like your Constitution, you can keep it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s shaping up to be the islamic jizya, reparations, and highway robbery all rolled up into one neat package.


16 posted on 11/05/2013 4:34:52 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: tobyhill

When will people learn that, if they don’t have to deliver right away, anyone can promise the moon in exchange for your life.


17 posted on 11/05/2013 4:37:05 AM PST by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: EBH

The employer plans hit in 2014. Those with employer plans will get the letters of doom next October. Right before elections.


18 posted on 11/05/2013 4:39:42 AM PST by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: tobyhill
What do common sense and deodorant have in common?
Those that need it the most don't use it! ! ! !
Here on local TV last night they had a lady with cancer that is losing her insurance. She went online and found a plan for $30.00 per month.
So she jumped for joy.
Now does she really believe that a insurance company will lose money for her?
PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
19 posted on 11/05/2013 4:43:34 AM PST by DeaconRed (ZERO: The Flim Flam Boy. HE IS NOT A MAN.)
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To: tobyhill

As is endemic of progressive speech, it all depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is.


20 posted on 11/05/2013 4:46:28 AM PST by tbpiper
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