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'Agitated' Dems vent on ObamaCare woes (Senate Dems vent frustrations in WH meeting)
The Hill ^ | 10/31/13 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 11/01/2013 7:08:11 AM PDT by Qbert

Senate Democrats vented their frustrations over the faulty rollout of the Affordable Care Act in a meeting Thursday with White House chief of staff Denis McDonough and other senior officials.

“There’s a lot of frustration, everywhere,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said after the meeting.

McDonough tried to assure angry senators he is personally taking charge of the disparate federal offices in charge of implementing the massive law, which has been plagued by technical errors.

“He gave us the impression that he’s taking charge of the different elements and cracking the whip. He said to let him know if we had concerns,” said a Democratic senator who attended the meeting.

Marilyn Tavenner, the administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, and Jeffrey Zients, whom President Obama has tapped to troubleshoot the bugs afflicting HealthCare.gov, also attended the meeting.

Democratic senators facing reelection in 2014 were some of the most vocal critics.

One lawmaker described Sens. Al Franken (D-Minn.) and Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) as visibly “agitated.”

Shaheen demanded to know why the rollout of HealthCare.gov had become so riddled with problems.

A Democratic aide said Shaheen asked the administration officials for a contingency plan in case technical problems are not fixed by Nov. 30. They replied they are working on one but did not have a plan to share as of Thursday.

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), who has spent more of his career in the private sector than in government, also weighed in forcefully, according to the source.

"I am not happy with the website. That is a pretty common thought that we all feel," Warner later told reporters.

“I think we ought to give them the time to make the improvements. But we need to see the improvements. We need to make this a much easier, consumer-friendly process," he added.

Some lawmakers complained the administration has not done a good job of communicating what it’s doing to overhaul HealthCare.gov.

“[People] are unhappy. We want to see improvements. They’ve got to let people know what they’re doing, as they’re doing it,” said Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio).

Brown said too many people still don’t know how to sign up for health plans through the insurance exchanges.

“This is a situation where too many people don’t know about the website, don’t know how to apply,” he said.

Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) told colleagues the White House and Democratic lawmakers need to do a better job telling positive stories about the Affordable Care Act.

She lamented that insurance companies have had it “both ways” by blaming ObamaCare for rising premiums and reaping millions of new customers because of the law, according to a lawmaker who attended the meeting.

Administration officials told Democratic lawmakers that they would keep the website running while they tried to fix the problems.

“They have evolved a method of proceeding, which is to keep the site up, which they believe is most effective in terms of getting the problems ironed out — as opposed to shutting it down,” said Feinstein. “We’ll see.”

McDonough put a positive spin on the heated meeting after exiting the Mansfield Room.

“I think we had a really good discussion,” he said.

Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) said many of her colleagues "are anxious for questions to be answered aggressively and effectively," but added they are already seeing improvements in the website and other parts of the rollout.

"I think time will fix a huge number of these problems, as it did on every major program like this that has ever rolled out," she said, referencing both Medicare and Medicare Part D.  

But other Democrats are skeptical about promises from the administration about how long it will take to fix the enrollment process.

"They hope to have good things to tell us as they get those fixes in place," said Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.). "I don't think there is confidence by anybody in the room. This is more of a 'show me' moment. We were all confident the system was going to be up and operating Oct. 1 and now we are not confident until it's real."

Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), the Senate Democrats' messaging guru, admitted it was a rocky meeting but emphasized that lawmakers felt their concerns were addressed.

"It was a tough meeting, there were a lot of hard questions," he said. "A lot of concerns were allayed."

Lawmakers discussed a proposal by Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) to let people keep their health plans, even if they fall short of the requirements set under the new law, according to another lawmaker in the room.

Landrieu expects several Democrats to co-sponsor the proposal.

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) told reporters that he plans to sign onto Landrieu’s bill.

Sen. Mark Pryor (D-Ark.), who faces a tough race next year, said he is in the midst of reviewing a draft.    

—Bernie Becker and Erik Wasson contributed. 


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To: Paine in the Neck; Qbert; OwenKellogg
RE :”That is essential battle-space prep for moving on to single payer. “ObamaCare would work fine if the insurance companies were removed.

Right now its damage control and Dems are frustrated that insurance companies are citing Obamacare rules for cancelations.

but progressives say:
Obamacare was a conservative idea that came from Mitt Romney.
See Obama did everything he could to reach across the aisle to make Republicans happy, even passing THEIR bill.
Now that we proved that having health insurance companies in the middle doesn't work its time to try single payer. But don't worry, if you like your insurance policy you will be able to keep it under single payer so support single payer. We need to make it work,’

41 posted on 11/01/2013 8:22:11 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: OwenKellogg; Paine in the Neck; Qbert
RE “Lawmakers discussed a proposal by Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) to let people keep their health plans, even if they fall short of the requirements set under the new law, according to another lawmaker in the room
....
But, Mary, it’s the law of the land. Deal with it.”

If the GOP could hijack this idea and pass a bill that gets rid of all the mandates under this same name 'Let you keep...' then Obamacare would die.

42 posted on 11/01/2013 8:23:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: andyk

This is what should scare the entire country.

The rats will do nothing to fix this. However they will invest every ounce of energy they have on blaming Repubicans.


43 posted on 11/01/2013 8:35:57 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Senator Cruz basically made the Democrats fight for a whole bunch of things that they already had.")
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To: Hoffer Rand
Notice they didn’t get to meet with King iWon Thinskin or the Gorn who’s actually running things. So, basically, the WH just shined them on, and they’re too clueless to see that.

Very good observation. It fits in with this pollutico article too ...

“The president cares a lot more about the opinions of Fred Hiatt or Tom Friedman than he does about the average U.S. Senator,” said one 'journOlist'.

44 posted on 11/01/2013 8:38:37 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Qbert

Cracking the whip over a dead horse is only time consuming.


45 posted on 11/01/2013 8:40:17 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Qbert

Just wait until tens of millions are dropped from their company insurance plans. This should be good.

Make everyone suffer so the inner city non-producing cretins get free healthcare. Thats a plan/s

If you thought healthcare was expensive before, wait till its free.


46 posted on 11/01/2013 8:45:41 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: hal ogen

Try This:

Best ever description of Obama Care aka DeathCare!

Remember when Nancy Pelosi said:

“We have to pass it, to find out what’s in it.”
A physician called into a radio show and said:
“That’s the definition of a stool sample.”

Pretty well sums it up.


47 posted on 11/01/2013 9:10:15 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: EQAndyBuzz

They are going to propose that people can keep their existing plans? How novel! Choke on it dems!!


48 posted on 11/01/2013 9:11:11 AM PDT by refermech
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To: sickoflibs

If the GOP could hijack this idea and pass a bill that gets rid of all the mandates under this same name ‘Let you keep...’ then Obamacare would die.


And if the GOP had a clue, they would make the case that:

1) “Freedom of Choice” is dead.

2) That 70 year old men have ended up with Sandra Fluke’s healthcare plan: paying for abortions, birth control pills, STD treatments, and maternity health care when all else fails.


49 posted on 11/01/2013 9:13:20 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation sucks.)
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To: ridesthemiles; All
"Cracking the whip over a 'dead horse' (Healthcare.gov)
is only time consuming."


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50 posted on 11/01/2013 9:20:38 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Qbert

51 posted on 11/01/2013 9:23:26 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45 ( Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: OwenKellogg
RE :”2) That 70 year old men have ended up with Sandra Fluke’s healthcare plan: paying for abortions, birth control pills, STD treatments, and maternity health care when all else fails.”

70 year olds get medicare which doesnt have those benefits, try a 50 or 60 year old.

52 posted on 11/01/2013 9:24:06 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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To: sickoflibs

The guy’s probably been sleeping around if he needs an STD treatment.


53 posted on 11/01/2013 9:25:00 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: sickoflibs

And that’s the point. We’ve weaseled into this position through wickedness.


54 posted on 11/01/2013 9:25:38 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: vette6387

55 posted on 11/01/2013 9:28:57 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Qbert.
Democratic senators facing reelection in 2014 were some of the most vocal critics. One lawmaker described Sens. Al Franken (D-Minn.) and Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) as visibly "agitated." Shaheen demanded to know why the rollout of HealthCare.gov had become so riddled with problems... Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) told colleagues the White House and Democratic lawmakers need to do a better job telling positive stories about the Affordable Care Act. She lamented that insurance companies have had it "both ways" by blaming ObamaCare for rising premiums and reaping millions of new customers because of the law, according to a lawmaker who attended the meeting.
No, Stab-me-now -- you and the rest of the Demagogic Party shoved this whole fiasco down everyone else's throats, voting down all changes, and supporting it without knowing what was in it.


56 posted on 11/01/2013 11:29:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Stupidcow isn't up for reelection till 2016 so it must be one hell of a problem for her to worry about in now. Gary Peters is running to fill the Levin seat and he's awfully quiet about it. I haven't heard much out of Mark Schauer either and Obamacare is his signature vote during his single term in Congress.

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57 posted on 11/01/2013 11:34:32 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Qbert
“This is a situation where too many people don’t know about the website, don’t know how to apply,” he said.

"Toots Shor's? Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded."

Yogi Berra
American Philosopher

58 posted on 11/01/2013 11:40:00 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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59 posted on 11/01/2013 12:03:35 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: Servant of the Cross

Happy Day After Halloween!


60 posted on 11/01/2013 12:56:15 PM PDT by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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