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Obama health target: 500,000 signups by Oct. 31 [see it "slipping out of reach"]
Houston Chronicle ^ | Oct 17, 2013 | RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR

Posted on 10/17/2013 1:43:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

WASHINGTON (AP) — For the first month alone, the Obama administration projected that nearly a half million people would sign up for the new health insurance markets, according to an internal memo obtained by The Associated Press. But that was before the markets opened to a cascade of computer problems.

If the glitches persist and frustrated consumers give up trying, that initial goal, described as modest in the memo, could slip out of reach.

The Sept. 5 memo, for Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, lists monthly enrollment targets for each state and Washington, D.C., through March 31, the last day of the initial open enrollment period under President Barack Obama's health care overhaul.

The new online insurance markets, called exchanges in some states, are supposed to be the portals to coverage for most of the nation's nearly 50 million uninsured people. Middle-class people without job-based coverage can shop for subsidized private plans, while low-income people are steered to an expanded version of Medicaid in states that have agreed to expand that safety net program.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; economy; healthcare; obamacare; zerocare
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Your litany makes me sick to my stomach.

What saddens me the most, is that only a third of the country is paying attention, and I can't imagine that more than a third will ever get fighting mad about this.

21 posted on 10/17/2013 2:47:22 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Sebelius urged Americans to keep coming back to healthcare.gov if they can’t get through.

That's a great pitch, because people always flock back to non-functioning web sites.

22 posted on 10/17/2013 2:49:07 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
health insurance has run up on the diamond-hard reality of economics: somebody has to pay.

Unlike every other government program. Why did the Democraps make such a mistake? It's so out of character.

23 posted on 10/17/2013 2:52:15 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Daffynition

Thanks for the image. It is more striking for some reason when you compare the numbers to a family’s income.


24 posted on 10/17/2013 3:29:03 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: All

they’ll spend a trillion to make this happen.


25 posted on 10/17/2013 3:42:50 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The first time I went in to the site I was given cheaper premiums then the 2nd time I checked. Not doing it again. Don’t trust it!


26 posted on 10/17/2013 4:18:24 AM PDT by lilypad
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To: MaxMax

OMG - that’s a GOOD point. You could make up demographic information and hope that this dog’s breakfast of a system doesn’t catch you, and there’s at least a possibility it won’t. What’s to stop you, especially if you’re outside the US borders and cannot be penalized by US law. God, what a nightmare.


27 posted on 10/17/2013 4:19:52 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (You can keep your doctor - if you lock him in your basement.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

bump


28 posted on 10/17/2013 4:23:25 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

29 posted on 10/17/2013 4:29:17 AM PDT by Zakeet (Democrats haven't destroyed your freedoms ... you can still visit them at the Smithsonian)
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To: MaxMax

Fighting over amnesty will cover it up


30 posted on 10/17/2013 5:37:37 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Domangart
Can someone who understands 0bamacare help me out? As I understand it:

1. 0bamacare has doctors who have signed up to support 0bamacare. From this list of doctors 0bamacare has put together 'coverages'.
2. If I ever got logged onto the crappy website I'd have to provide reams of personal data and then choose one of their plans and take my chances on the doctors.
3. the gov't will subsidize the cost of my health plan, but my cost may be almost as high as it would be if I just contacted Health Insurers on my own.

Is this correct?

31 posted on 10/17/2013 5:38:43 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The entire uninsured line is a lie. There are approximately 15 million uninsured and they wanted to be uninsured.

Scott Atlas breaks it down:

Obama and the Democrats started out with the lie that 50 million people are uninsured, but if you look at the raw data (Census Bureau, etc.) you it’s not really 50 million people.

Of the 50 million about 10-15 million people are not U.S. citizens. That leaves 35-40 million people “uninsured”.

Next, take a look at the people who answered the U.S. Census Bureau survey and said they didn’t have health insurance, and about another 10 million or so that said they didn’t have insurance were using insurance. The Census Bureau went and looked, looked up and found medical records (.S. Census Bureau documents, Appendix C); these people had insurance that they were using, and mainly Medicaid. They just didn’t realize it. That lowers our number to 25-30 million “uninsured”.

Then there’s another 13 million adults and children of these 50 million people who actually are already eligible for public insurance: Medicaid, Medicare, and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP or CHIP) that didn’t sign up, but are eligible. They simply haven’t used it.

That gets our number down to 12-17 million “uninsured”, many of which simply are too healthy and young to really need health insurance.

So, you are left with a population of less than 5% of people in the United States who don’t have insurance or who are not already eligible for current government insurance programs. I would not call that a crisis in the uninsured.

See here: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2012/07/scott_atlas_on.html


32 posted on 10/17/2013 6:03:06 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s all in the definition and wording!
Beware, this guy’s ideology springs from the father of lies!

What does “signups” mean?


33 posted on 10/17/2013 6:04:09 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Your litany makes me sick to my stomach. What saddens me the most, is that only a third of the country is paying attention, and I can't imagine that more than a third will ever get fighting mad about this.

My 4th point in outlining some of this mess had an incomplete thought because I misused one word for another (I make that change below in bold) - as I believe they have purposefully worked to make people unemployed - drive them into their socialist healthcare system and be one step closer to running every aspect of their lives.

"High unemployment has swelled the uninsured ranks, helped along by government actions to keep the economy struggling (no pipeline, EPA rules closing down businesses and jobs, Obamacare dictates moving people to part-time or being laid off, and business in limbo for years and not hiring).

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And as to the number who won't get up to speed on what is happening - the president and his party and his media will continue to demonize us (the ones who want all Americans to grow and prosper in all ways that make their lives better). If we were understood as being the people who want them to succeed (and along with them, the country and the world) Obama would lose his signature socialist program and the Left's long held dream and drive for total control would be pushed back.

To bury the truth, that it is the Left that is crippling these people, they will continue to scream that conservatives, the Tea Party, everyday hardworking Americans are greedy and racist and hateful (and they are teaching this poison to our children).

Obama and the Democrat Party are evil people to do this and then claim that they are helping so many "diverse" groups (groups they have divided the country into), when in fact they've put people into hyphenated boxes, to keep us UN-united, and leverage their power fanning hate and discontent between good people.

It's so very sick.

34 posted on 10/17/2013 6:15:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: 1010RD

The BIG Lie to enslave us.

The Left nurtures inner city blight and dysfunction - they must cripple people in order to make them beg for and depend on big government.


35 posted on 10/17/2013 6:30:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

just wait till they start getting fines and we’ll see the black community especially up in arms but even then they won’t get it that bozo cares nothing about them and has just used them.


36 posted on 10/17/2013 6:30:57 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Then feel free to cut and paste that info to your lists. We need to get this out there, because the MSM won’t.


37 posted on 10/17/2013 6:36:48 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: FR_addict
It's 4th grade math, fer heaven's sake?

What is wrong with these people? Put down your *smart* phones!


38 posted on 10/17/2013 6:40:28 AM PDT by Daffynition (*In memory of FReeper Blackie. God rest his *Hooligan* soul.*)
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To: Seeing More Clearly Now
This is the folly of all the Congresspeople who voted for it and did not stop it. What even most of them don’t seem to grasp is that Obama doesn’t care a thing about health care or a thing about jobs. He cares about draining the U.S. Treasury and getting a stranglehold over the lives of all Americans. It’s the Saul Alinsky Rules for Radicals strategy and methodology being carried out in front of our eyes and facilitated by an irresponsible Congress.

This bunch has shaken the country badly, causing rifts between families and friends, children and parents, rolled back race relations, you name it - they have done their best to destroy unity so that they can gain power.

39 posted on 10/17/2013 6:41:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: manc
just wait till they start getting fines and we’ll see the black community especially up in arms but even then they won’t get it that bozo cares nothing about them and has just used them.

Since this "plan" is in part to "re-distribute" wealth (and maintain a voting base that will vote money into their own pockets and into the Democrat party coffers) - there is certain to be bigger subsidies given to them.

40 posted on 10/17/2013 6:44:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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