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Conservatives fear another split Republican vote, with path for Christie win
The Washington Times ^ | 30 September 2013 | Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 09/30/2013 5:12:58 AM PDT by COBOL2Java


If New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has any chance of securing the Republican presidential nomination, he just might have to thank such darlings of the tea party movement as Rand Paul and Ted Cruz for an unlikely path to victory.

As Mr. Paul’s and Mr. Cruz’s recent filibusters on the Senate floor have shown, the 2016 quest for the White House is well underway. A fierce battle among the new small-government, libertarian stars is already raging.

That has left a growing number of conservative activists voicing concerns publicly about a scenario that would let a moderate Republican like Mr. Christie slip through the cracks of a movement divided between such strong conservative personalities as Mr. Paul, Mr. Cruz and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker.

“It seems like a broken record every four years: a number of conservatives run against one or two ‘moderates’ — apparently there’s no such thing as a liberal Republican — the conservatives cancel each other, and the ‘moderate’ ekes out a primary win,” lamented Media Research Center President L. Brent Bozell.

Pollsters see the same scenario in 2016 based on current data.

“The pattern in recent cycles suggests that the GOP will ultimately settle on a more ‘establishment’ candidate as a result of a continued split among conservatives,” pollster and campaign strategist Matt Towery said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky; US: New Jersey; US: Texas; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: barbarabuono; chrischristie; christie; fff; finos; kentucky; newjersey; nonsense; scottwalker; tedcruz; texas; wisconsin
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To: pfony1

I do not care what the results are.

If I cannot vote for Ted Cruz, then I won’t be voting.

If there are enough stupid morons in this country who want Fat Boy or Cankles as their president, then by all means.

I do not support the GOP any more.

Ted Cruz or bust.

That is all.


61 posted on 09/30/2013 7:39:14 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Graewoulf
I guess it isn't a joke;

"...The federal government calls them FEMA Corps. But they conjure up memories of the Hitler Youth of 1930’s Germany. Regardless of their name, the Dept of Homeland Security has just graduated its first class of 231 Homeland Youth. Kids, aged 18-24 and recruited from the President’s AmeriCorp volunteers, they represent the first wave of DHS’s youth corps, designed specifically to create a full time, paid, standing army of FEMA Youth across the country. On September 13, 2012, the Department of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps first-responders. While the idea...." read more.......

http://www.saveamericafoundation.com/2012/10/19/obama-fema-corp-recruits-conjure-up-memories-of-the-hitler-youth-of-1930s-germany/

62 posted on 09/30/2013 7:39:32 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
"I am not impressed with his intelligence

I think that says a lot about more your intellect than it does Paul's.

BTW, I often come across posts by you at FR and I must tell you I find you a light weight poster mostly pushing one agenda or another. (In this instance an anti-Paul agenda). I could also expand those comment to include (with some notable exceptions) American Thinker. I would summarize for you but as always I try to follow management rules here at FR. I will say that I do tire of the constant Anti Paul comments a few intellectually challenged Freepers like to post. I suggest yall give the anti-Paul campaign a rest for a while, unless that is you are striving to split conservatives and nominate a Christy or a Jeb. I am quite confidence that both Paul and Cruz know the stakes and will WORK TOGETHER (with Sarah) to nominate a conservative in 2016.

63 posted on 09/30/2013 8:09:50 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: COBOL2Java
20 states have "open" primaries, with 10 of those being RINO states. Depending on the Demonrat primary (Hillary's coronation), there may also be millions of Demonrats changing their political affiliation in order to vote for the RINO candidate (probably encouraged by the GOPe) in the rest of the states.

In other words, unless there is a coordinated concentrated campaign behind one, and only one Conservative GOP candidate, the RINO will walk away with the nomination.

I am very impressed with Ted Cruz's fight right now, but as a Presidential candidate, I would like to know how he would treat immigration (borders?, back of the line?, pathway to citizenship?, crack down on employers?, etc.). Also, is he prepared to slash the Federal budget to get us back to financial responsibility??? Even though he is fighting against the budget busting Obumbocare now, he is still voting to continue spending at a trillion dollar per year deficient.

64 posted on 09/30/2013 8:10:44 AM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: sickoflibs

“...all beating up on each other letting Romney off the hook,...”

I do too.

Path forward, then is going after the RINO / squish moderate right off the bat and removing him from the equation?


65 posted on 09/30/2013 8:12:09 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: COBOL2Java

(shrug)
Then Pork Porkie will be the GOP establishment’s third consecutive loser.
The biggest loser.

I will never voye for that slob.


66 posted on 09/30/2013 8:14:44 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
We didn't split the vote !

Sure we did. Cain, Santorum, Newt, and to a lesser extent Bachmann, they all had their adherents, here and within the party.

Had we decided on one, someone might have stopped Romney. Conservatives need one, and ONLY one, candidate around which to coalesce and we must unite around that candidate.

67 posted on 09/30/2013 8:15:26 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (My PV2 is my hero.)
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To: jpsb

Thank you for your comments. I look forward to reading your published works, though you’d have to ante up a real name.

And FTR, comments are not anti-Paul, just more pro Cruz for example.


68 posted on 09/30/2013 8:46:43 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: jpsb
Talk about irony: you said in another post: I like Paul it is true, but I also worry about Paul, he has a tendency to go wobbly as he is thinking his way thru issues, but thus far he made the right decision on all the important matters so I am still OK with defending him.

Dude, that's not much different that what I said....that you took umbrage to. I guess it's okay for you to do it since you have Paul bot cred? Sheesh.......

69 posted on 09/30/2013 8:51:23 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: COBOL2Java

Perhaps the GOP should look at their primary system nationwide.


70 posted on 09/30/2013 9:15:03 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: chris37

You said,

“If I cannot vote for Ted Cruz, then I won’t be voting.”

I hope this doesn’t mean that I should blame Cbama’s re-”election” on YOU...


71 posted on 09/30/2013 9:43:39 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: chris37

You said,

“If I cannot vote for Ted Cruz, then I won’t be voting.”

I hope this doesn’t mean that I should blame Cbama’s re-”election” on YOU...


72 posted on 09/30/2013 9:44:08 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Do you mean you aren’t allowed to post comments at the Washington Times website?


73 posted on 09/30/2013 11:01:45 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: pfony1

You can blame anything on anyone you want, it doesn’t matter a hill of beans to me.

Ted Cruz or bust.


74 posted on 09/30/2013 11:10:42 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: COBOL2Java

The rinos won’t get my vote no matter what.


75 posted on 09/30/2013 11:29:14 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Newt split the vote by staying in after he was no longer viable.


76 posted on 09/30/2013 4:13:21 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: rrrod

I don’t trust the Paul people, but Rand Paul isn’t mentally retarded so he won’t be running as a third party. The reason his daddy didn’t was because it would have ruined Rand’s career.


77 posted on 09/30/2013 4:15:42 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: COBOL2Java

When did Romney tell Boehner to break the Hastert Rule?

Romney was better than all the other’s on immigration in a weak field.

He probably supported amnesty once he won the nomination.

Cruz and Paul won’t run against eachother. One will drop out. In terms of what bills they will get to sign it will make little difference.

One problem is Paul running with amnesty lite and losing a lot of supporters. Paul supports amnesty lite but he first has to dupe congress into it. A Tancredo type candidate who has a sensible immigration position could siphon off votes. On the muslim profiling and immigration issue as well.

I dont think Christie was ever going to run all the way for president. He just wanted to point out he could run even as a fat man.


78 posted on 10/01/2013 10:32:13 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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