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1 posted on 09/09/2013 12:52:17 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Isolationist Libertarian Populism is rocketing down the tracks at us. Don’t be surprised when it carries the day.


2 posted on 09/09/2013 12:54:18 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: neverdem

Ambassador Stevens could not be reached for comment.


3 posted on 09/09/2013 12:56:46 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: neverdem

I like isolationists. They keep to themselves.


4 posted on 09/09/2013 12:58:28 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: neverdem

One man’s isolationist is another man’s rational thinker.


5 posted on 09/09/2013 12:59:16 PM PDT by allendale
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To: neverdem

I call it restraint.


6 posted on 09/09/2013 1:02:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: neverdem
"I am not opposed to all wars. I’m opposed to dumb wars."

-- State Senator Barack Hussein Obama, Chicago antiwar rally, October 26, 2002

7 posted on 09/09/2013 1:04:24 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Trust but verify. If you can't verify, trust no one but God.)
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To: neverdem

Glad to see this. “Isolationist’ seems to be the new perjorative for folks who think the saber-rattling is a bit too much. We’re in good company - the Pope evidently also falls into that category.

My thinking is more along the lines of, ‘The Emperor Has No Clothes’ or perhaps “The Boy Who Cried Wolf!”


8 posted on 09/09/2013 1:10:19 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: neverdem

I’m not an isolationist. I just don’t think we should be using our military to keep the price of natural gas low for Western Europe. They can pony-up some more money and bribe Assad to allow that pipeline through Syria. Germany voted to close down their nuclear power plants, so let them spend their Euros for heat from the Saudis.


9 posted on 09/09/2013 1:13:15 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: neverdem
The traditional American foreign policy, which Ohio's Senator Robert A. Taft, Sr., supported, was never an "isolationist" foreign policy. What it was, was well defined by Washington & his first Secretary of State, Thomas Jefferson, and was premised upon both the traditional Law of Nations, and fundamental moral principles of the West. Most important in the present context, it was one which was most consistent with the very concept of the sovereign nation.

See An American Foreign Policy.

Put another way, we were always involved with the rest of the world. The fundamental difference being that we accorded all who did not insult us with respect; but (in Jefferson's words) "punished the first insult," as for example the way the Marines, under his orders, dealt with the Barbary Pirates.

The misapplication of the term "Isolationist," has been used since the Left lost the League of Nations Debate in 1918 to 1920, by those who would like to undermine the very concept of the sovereign nation.

William Flax

10 posted on 09/09/2013 1:18:38 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: neverdem

Leftists don’t debate issues. They engage in pejorative name calling. Alinsky tactics. Isolate and ridicule.


11 posted on 09/09/2013 1:24:12 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: neverdem

One thing I learned from “Bush’s Foreign Policy” is never take a ‘Progressive’ into battle. They’re useless and they’ll only weigh you down.
To quote a post at that site:
We are not war ‘weary’. We’re ‘wary’.
Iraq was still the right thing to do, but it turned horribly wrong, thanks to the Barbarians at the Gate. (”Progressives”)

1998 Columbus Ohio CNN Town Hall Meeting.

“The United States does not challenge Iraq’s territorial integrity,
nor do we want to see the Iraqi people suffer any further,” Albright
said. “Our problem and the world’s problem is with Iraq’s leaders. And
today those leaders have a choice. They can allow U.N. inspections to
proceed on the world’s terms, or they can invite serious military
strikes on ours.”

So much for ‘Bush’s Rush to War’......


12 posted on 09/09/2013 1:25:34 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: neverdem

This is nothing. They’re whipping out the anti-Semite card already. Oh, and the Dems are calling us racist as usual.


13 posted on 09/09/2013 1:25:40 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: neverdem
What Obama/Kerry have in mind is the equivalent of an international drive-by shooting.

What's the point?

I am tired of the US entering conflicts it has no intention of winning.

If we are going to do something in Syria, then unequivocal victory should be the goal.

If it's not, then do not do it.

14 posted on 09/09/2013 1:25:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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To: neverdem

“Isolationism” is thrown about as an epithet whenever someone wants to criticize an unwillingness to send our military into harms way to achieve some dubious objective. They can’t persuade by logic, so they resort to thinly veiled ad hominem attacks.

OK, fine. So if it makes me an “isolationist” to oppose the wasting of American lives and treasure by trying to resolve civil wars in every third world hellhole imaginable, then I guess I’m an Isolationist. And I’ll wear the label with pride.


16 posted on 09/09/2013 2:21:26 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: neverdem

It’s called hyperbole, very common in politics.


17 posted on 09/09/2013 3:12:38 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: neverdem

Gerson: “Nations such as China, Russia and Iran would see this as the triumph of a political coalition between the peace party of the left and the rising isolationists of the right.”

What else does Iran need to see after five years of unimpeded progress in its nuclear program?

What more do China, Russia, Iran and terrorist groups need to know than what is already well-known, that obama is a godsend (unilaterial nuclear disarmament, gutting the military, Benghazi, open border, etc)?!


18 posted on 09/09/2013 6:26:09 PM PDT by sun7
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To: neverdem

In the current situation in Syria, I would not consider it isolationist to oppose getting involved. However, the Rand Paul segment of the GOP is too isolationist and it WILL hurt us someday should they gain real power. However, the Neocons were too interventionistic. We need something in between.


19 posted on 09/09/2013 6:42:12 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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