Posted on 08/15/2013 9:48:33 AM PDT by Kaslin
I am thinking more and More that Mark Levin’s option is the last best hope...
If it fails we are so SOL it isn’t funny...
I broke down and bought a cheap DBD (that’ what my youngest grand daughter calls’em) of “OLYMPUS HAS FALLEN”, and I’m gonna drink some beers and sit here at my computer and root for the fricking North Koreans....that’s what needs to happen. I’m waiting for the WH catching all-hell scene.
Our Constitution was meant for a moral people and we now have immoral people in power.
Exactly. Any Constitutional "solution" assumes TPTB are actually interested in obeying the Constitution. With the so-called "leadership" we have, any talk of Constitutional solutions is merely an exercise in gum flapping.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
While I like some of what Mark Levin has to say, his proposal to amend the Constitution is plainly misguided. 3/4 of the legislatures would have to approve. Said another way, 1/4 of the states could derail any such attempt. More than 1/4 of the states are perfectly fine and happy with the status quo. Can you see NY or CA or RI agreeing to any of this? So changes to the Constitution are not happening.
We need to keep hammering them, Mark yesterday made a good argument that we can win this is we apply ourselves to it..
Waste your time passing whatever amendments you want. You can count on five justices ruling that those amendments don’t apply or mean something other than the clearly worded intent. We’re way past fixing things with amendments.
I will buy Mark Levin’s book. I will vote for Palin if she runs.
Other than that, I will try to stay under the radar and wait in readiness for the SHTF moment and respond accordingly.
I think I am going to switch from popcorn to peanuts.
It’s not the people in power, it is the people who put them there. We get the gov’t we deserve.
Levin is providing good talking points and ideas, but it’s not a practical solution.
The gov’t has escaped its bounds and until we have a populace that will remove politicians who countenance gov’t power grabs, we will have what we have.
The Constitution is fine. What we need is people who believe in it.
With all due respect to Mr. Levin, there’s nothing wrong with the Constitution. Previous generations of justices have already decided against much of what the corrupt, unconstitutionaly big federal government is doing today.
The problem is that generations of apathetic, working parents who use public schools mainly to babysit their children, have not been making sure that their children are being taught the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers. And Progressive socialist lawmakers have seized the opportunity provided by widespread ignorance of the federal government’s limited powers to trade constitutionally indefensible federal spending programs for votes from an “army” of low-information voters to keep socialists in power.
3/4 of states approval
Rkba mentions 3 as NOT approving.
That equals 6% by my math
2 many are 2 quick 2 throw in the towel.
Yeah a CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION! It will be subverted. Say goodbye to the 1, 2, 4, 5 Amendments for starters. Then they will do away with the Electoral College because the intellectually challenged will not realize that with the Dims version of voter ID, Chicago alone could print enough ballots to elect the President
I am reading and rereading Article V. I read that it all boils down to Congress, both Houses, having a final go-no go as to calling a ‘convention’ of states’. Though the Constitution is explicitly worded to say ‘shall call’ I will bet Reed and the Democratic Senate would stonewall that part of the Constitution.
Proposal:
There are two ways to propose an amendment to the Constitution.
The Congressional Method requires the House and Senate to pass an amendment by a two-thirds majority.
The Amendments Convention Method requires the legislatures of two-thirds of the states to petition Congress to call a Convention for Proposing Amendments. The states may request a single-subject convention or a general convention open to all subjects. Mr. Levin's suggested amendments would require the states to request a general convention. Once the two-thirds threshold is reached, Congress is required to set a time and place for the convention.
Article V gives Congress and an Amendments Convention exactly the same power to propose amendments, no more and no less.
Disposal:
Once Congress, or an Amendments Convention, proposes amendments, Congress must decide whether the states will ratify by the State Legislature Method or the State Ratifying Convention Method. The State Ratifying Convention Method has only been used twice: once to ratify the Constitution, and once to ratify the 21st Amendment repealing Prohibition.
Ratification:
Depending upon which ratification method is chosen by Congress, either the state legislatures vote up-or-down on the proposed amendment, or the voters elect a state ratifying convention to vote up-or-down. If three-quarters of the states vote to ratify, the amendment becomes part of the Constitution.
“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” John Adams
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We're evidently not on the same sheet of music.
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