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Urban Sprawl Is Literally Stranding the Poor (Paul Krugman)
Newser ^ | 07/28/2013 | Kevin Spak

Posted on 07/29/2013 11:51:33 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

(Newser) – Detroit spent the last decade spiraling into bankruptcy, while Atlanta spent it growing like mad. But the two cities have something in common: "Both are places where the American dream seems to be dying," writes Paul Krugman at the New York Times. Social mobility is low in both cities—meaning the poor are staying poor. Why? Well, a new study suggests that it might be because they're just too spread out. "Sprawl may be killing Horatio Alger."

The study found that social mobility was correlated with how far apart various classes lived from each other. "In Atlanta, poor and rich neighborhoods are far apart because, basically, everything is far apart; Atlanta is the Sultan of Sprawl," Krugman writes. "Disadvantaged workers often find themselves stranded; there may be jobs available somewhere, but they literally can't get there." We need to build smarter, more compact population centers that let families get by without multiple cars. Click for Krugman's full column.

 

 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: agenda21; atlanta; detroit; urbansprawl
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To: dfwgator

No. That scumbag Krugman would be on the other side of town in the chateaus, nose in the air with the rest of the elite political class.
Their planning is strictly for the proletariat, not for themselves.


41 posted on 07/29/2013 12:10:54 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

True, I’m sure he thinks he’d have his own “dacha.”


42 posted on 07/29/2013 12:11:49 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Responsibility2nd

I thought the aim of government planners was to separate residential and commercial areas.

Mission accomplished, right?

And now from the central planners comes “but we didn’t mean THAT!”


43 posted on 07/29/2013 12:12:02 PM PDT by freerepublicchat
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To: Responsibility2nd

Every single thing this guy says is stupid. I think even other lefties know that.


44 posted on 07/29/2013 12:12:08 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Black Agnes

Atlanta has affluent Black suburbs that are so desirable that Whites move in and don’t mind being the minority. MLK was right about character.


45 posted on 07/29/2013 12:12:55 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: ozzymandus

He is ALWAYS wrong


46 posted on 07/29/2013 12:12:56 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: wbill
That was my point.

Raising Hell in Subsidized Housing

As Program Moves Poor to Suburbs, Tensions Follow

American Murder Mystery

The Unspeakable Blackness of Section 8 and Crime

47 posted on 07/29/2013 12:13:55 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Responsibility2nd
there may be jobs available somewhere, but they literally can't get there.

And I suppose that transit systems that have to spend 70% or more of their budget on retired union members who sit home on their arses has NOTHING to do with that, eh, Kruggy?


48 posted on 07/29/2013 12:13:56 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sgt_Schultze
In Atlanta, African-Americans are 54 percent of the population, but are responsible for 100 percent of homicide, 95 percent of rape, 94 percent of robbery, 84 percent of aggravated assault, and 93 percent of burglary. Source: APD Uniform Crime Reports, Apr 2011 to Apr 2012

It might be a tipping point phenomenon... when blacks are more than 30% of the population, white producers leave ...

49 posted on 07/29/2013 12:14:30 PM PDT by GOPJ (Sob stories should not be running public policy...)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Nope. Just covert support for Agenda 21. Populations need to be locked up in urban areas and arcologies. Even if they don’t want to be...


50 posted on 07/29/2013 12:14:48 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Lancey Howard
Krugman would have been right at home in the Soviet Union writing up the next "Five Year Plan".

What do you think this current administration and the entire Democrat Party is all about?


51 posted on 07/29/2013 12:16:22 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Black Agnes

In this novel, there is one world government. People are encouraged to breed like rabbits. Everyone lives their entire lives inside one of these towers. No one is allowed to go outside, in fact, people are agoraphobic. Anyone who is deemed to be a danger is summarily taken out of society by way of a chute at the end of each hallway.

There are people who do live on the farms that are necessary to support the population, but they are few, since it’s mostly automated. They are seen as ‘weird’.

The plot centers around a man who wants to go out side......


52 posted on 07/29/2013 12:16:23 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: maggief

I think some of those poor underclass should be given directions to his mansions and told that they are welcome to move in with him to spread the wealth around. It looks like he could accomodate at least a dozen poor families. After all, he didn’t build that wealth himself, he built it on the backs of the poor.

Along with that, build as much section 8 housing as is possible on or around his land. It’s only the right thing to do. There are more than enough current and future Trayvons to go around, he should take in his share.


53 posted on 07/29/2013 12:16:24 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I just discussed this article with my 16yo daughter. I explained that this was the second recent article I’d seen on relocating earners from the suburbs back to urban areas. Her response? “But why???” Because the social engineers think that the poor won’t be poor if they make the wager earners live closer to them. Her response? “That doesn’t make sense.” I explained that’s how the liberal mind works to which she replied ‘so they’re stupid?’

Out of the mouths of babes...


54 posted on 07/29/2013 12:16:45 PM PDT by Frapster (Clear the mechanism)
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To: Responsibility2nd

:: the American dream seems to be dying ::

Uhhh...Paul, that would be YOUR interpretation of the American Dream which, apparently, is “social mobility”.

Everyone else believes the American dream is self-determination.


55 posted on 07/29/2013 12:18:38 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: massgopguy

I’m guessing wealthy blacks don’t cotton to gang bangers either. Our next door neighbors moved to the country to get their kids away from that influence.


56 posted on 07/29/2013 12:18:50 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Responsibility2nd

Smart Growth = Leaving your tiny, dirty, and violent government-owned apartment to take the bus to your union job at the factory.


57 posted on 07/29/2013 12:19:04 PM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: wbill
"Disadvantaged workers often find themselves stranded; there may be jobs available somewhere, but they literally can't get there."

Right - blacks can't get to a job 10 blocks away, but Mexicans can get from Mexico to Michigan to pick fruit for peanuts? Hey Krugman - explain that one away...

Krugman's garbage is half 'push the stupid new liberal idea' about sprawl and half 'it's not the blacks fault they can't get to a job". Both ideas are bogus.

58 posted on 07/29/2013 12:20:15 PM PDT by GOPJ (Sob stories should not be running public policy...)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Sprawl may be killing Horatio Alger.”


Horatio Alger stories are highly moralistic about what is right and wrong. If you do what is right, don’t lie, cheat or steal etc, you will eventually do well.


59 posted on 07/29/2013 12:24:06 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: wbill

Turns out not: http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/paul-krugmans-house/


60 posted on 07/29/2013 12:27:14 PM PDT by Thoreauaway
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