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Ex-US general: We pay a price for backing Israel
Times of Israel ^
| July 25, 2013
| Lazar Berman
Posted on 07/28/2013 10:43:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
Slamming settlements, James Mattis, former commander of CentCom, tells crowd in Aspen that moderate Arabs are forced to hide support for America.
Retired US Marine Corps General James Mattis recently said that America pays a price for its perceived bias in support of Israel.
I paid a military security price every day as the commander of CentCom because the Americans were seen as biased in support of Israel, and that moderates all the moderate Arabs who want to be with us, because they cant come out publicly in support of people who dont show respect for the Arab Palestinians, he said Saturday at the Aspen Security Forum in Colorado in response to a question about the peace process
Mattis took over Central Command, whose area of responsibility includes the Middle East, North Africa, and Central Asia, from David Petraeus in 2010.
He called the current situation in Israel unsustainable and blamed the settlements for harming prospects for peace. The chances for an accord between Israel and the Palestinians, said Mattis, are starting to ebb because the settlements and where theyre at are going to make it impossible to maintain the two state solution.
Mattis then described a hypothetical in which 500 Jewish settlers live among 10,000 Arabs, and the implications of where Israel draws the border. He called it a choice between giving up the idea of a Jewish state or becoming an apartheid state.
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TOPICS: Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: centcom; idiot; iraqwar; israel; jamesmattis; mattis; randsconcerntrolls; waronterror
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To: Alberta's Child
Seems like a front to me. He speaks for all his Marines to be prepared to kill everyone they meet, but their rules of engagement prevented them from doing exactly that.
To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...
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posted on
07/28/2013 11:05:04 AM PDT
by
Nachum
(The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
To: SunkenCiv
We pay a price for supporting Egypt, too...and Iraq, and Afghanistan and Pakistan and Europe and Mexico and Taiwan and South Korea, etc...etc....and now we are putting a down payment on Syria.
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posted on
07/28/2013 11:05:10 AM PDT
by
TADSLOS
(The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
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posted on
07/28/2013 11:06:48 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
07/28/2013 11:07:56 AM PDT
by
MichaelCorleone
(Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
To: SunkenCiv
We pay a price for backing IsraelNo, we receive a blessing for backing Israel. And we receive a curse for not backing Israel - kind of like what has happened since 2009.
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posted on
07/28/2013 11:10:08 AM PDT
by
Hoodat
(BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
To: jazusamo
Bear in mind that any officer above the rank of O-6 is a political creature.
Like most flag-rank officers, he knows the current market value of thirty pieces of silver.
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posted on
07/28/2013 11:10:33 AM PDT
by
Old Sarge
(My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
To: SunkenCiv
You would think an ex-general would be smart enough to understand,doing the right thing always has a price.
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posted on
07/28/2013 11:10:53 AM PDT
by
Farmer Dean
(stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
To: GenXteacher
I would like to see the Kaaba stone survive that.
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posted on
07/28/2013 11:11:29 AM PDT
by
Hoodat
(BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
To: b4its2late; vbmoneyspender; lexington minuteman 1775; Mmogamer; Old Sarge; GenXteacher; ...
He’ll announce his candidacy for higher office soon — as a Democrat, “reporting for duty”.
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posted on
07/28/2013 11:12:14 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
To: SunkenCiv
Oh, he’ll do his doody, all right...
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posted on
07/28/2013 11:14:26 AM PDT
by
Old Sarge
(My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
To: SunkenCiv
Stranger things have happened. I hope not.
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posted on
07/28/2013 11:14:34 AM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
To: huldah1776
He may have been the guy who responded to IED attacks on his personnel by shutting off the food and water supplies and closing the medical facilities in the area around the attack for a week at a time. After the first attack, the supplies were cut off for a week. After the second attack, two weeks. Etc., etc. He made it absolutely clear to the local Iraqi leaders that this was the deal.
After a while he had very little trouble over there.
Like him or not, he had a very keen understanding of the politics over in Iraq, and seemed to understand what it would take to fulfill the U.S. mission. I'm sure he recognized the idiocy of the underlying mission, but once he was over there I think it's hard to complain about his approach.
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posted on
07/28/2013 11:17:58 AM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
To: SunkenCiv
Hell announce his candidacy for higher office soon as a Democrat, reporting for duty.Yep...That wouldn't surprise me in the least.
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posted on
07/28/2013 11:19:45 AM PDT
by
jazusamo
("I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white." T. Sowell)
To: DoughtyOne
And whose fault is this? The U. S.? Israel? Or is it the fault of rabid Arab terrorists? Three guesses and the first two don’t count. I even gave a very subtle hint and I doubt this guy gets it.
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Exactly. The “price” is bing paid by the Muslims with their phony war with Israel. Gotta keep the the folks stirred up so they won’t blame their corrupt governments for their miserable life.
He may have been a good general but his sense of history stinks.
To: Hoodat
Google “Nuke Mecca”
Not only are there an @ss of plans out there for taking out the muzzies’ `holy city’, but the muzzies have also written a slew of explanations of how Allah spirited away the Kaaba & the black stone before the nuke strike.
IIRC, the Kaaba has been destroyed & rebuilt several times, and the black stone exists in fragments like a couple of handfuls of bituminous coal.
Anyway, WHAT `moderate Arabs’? Ain’t no such animal unless he is out of bullets & your finger is on the trigger.
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posted on
07/28/2013 11:26:14 AM PDT
by
elcid1970
("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
To: SunkenCiv
and that moderates all the moderate Arabs who want to be with us, because they cant come out publicly in support of people who dont show respect for the Arab Palestinians,
Definition of moderate Arabs: those who only talk about killing us in Arabic.
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posted on
07/28/2013 11:29:03 AM PDT
by
rbg81
To: InterceptPoint
Agreed.
Arabs particularly on the West Bank and Gaza cannot voice support for Israel in any manner, or they and their families are set-upon and killed outright.
This general has been around for how long, and didn’t know this? Really? Ouch!
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posted on
07/28/2013 11:29:56 AM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
To: SunkenCiv
The General’s remarks make perfect sense IF one assumes that any sizeable group among the Arabs wants a two-state solution with Israel and Palestine co-existing in peace as equal states.
Since this is not an option because Arabs as a group are insistent on destroying Israel, it doesn’t much matter what inhibits movement towards an impossible goal.
To: SunkenCiv
And how many Jews died in the gas chambers? Refresh my mind!!
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