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Breaking – State moves to charge Zimmerman with 3d Degree Murder based on Aggravated Child Abuse
Legal Insurrection ^ | Thursday, July 11, 2013 at 10:37am | William A. Jacobson

Posted on 07/11/2013 9:11:32 AM PDT by Sopater

As expected, the Judge in the George Zimmerman case ruled that in addition to Second Degree Murder, she will instruct the jury on the lesser included offense of Manslaughter, as required by Florida case law.

In a surprise move this morning, the prosecution asked the Judge to drop the Aggravated Assault charge and to instruct the jury on Third Degree Murder, which is murder in the course of committing a felony.

The felony the State wanted as the predicate was Aggravated Child Abuse (Jury Instruction) because Trayvon Martin was 17 at the time of the shooting.

According to Don West, the defense was not notified until 7:30 a.m. this morning.

This surprise is important because the defense did not have time to research the law, while the State presented numerous cases. Generally it is not a defense to child abuse that the perpetrator did not know the age of the victim. This is an unusual circumstance, however, where Zimmerman was punched in the nose and the “child” was on top punching him — to say that excessive use of force in defense of an attack by a “child” is child abuse certainly requires some time to research and argue. I don’t know the answer to that legal question, but the court should give the defense time to research and argue it. (Update 11:35 a.m. — Judge just indicated she will give defense time to research, but didn’t indicate how long until 1 p.m.)

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2a; 3rddegreemurder; banglist; blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; rapeofliberty; rehash; selfdefense; trayvonmartin; zimmerman; zimmermantrial
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To: Sopater

The judge already said something along the lines of ‘If I screw this up, you can try again in a higher court’.


21 posted on 07/11/2013 9:20:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: mrsmel
What next, charge him for littering?

Not using the black bags provided at the beginning of the walkway.

22 posted on 07/11/2013 9:20:34 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: cripplecreek

Bingo!!! Mistrial in the making. What a farce this is.


23 posted on 07/11/2013 9:20:43 AM PDT by marygam (I have extra ducktape for anyone who needs to wrap their head.)
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To: Mr. K

That’s just it - in order for it to be 3rd degree, they have to have a “predicate” felony,
which is why they are going for the absurd charge of “child abuse”.

Yeah, a 17 yr old, 6’ 3”, 220 lb, MMA trained, first/sucker punch throwing, straddle vice beating with intent to kill,

“child”.


24 posted on 07/11/2013 9:21:30 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Sopater

This is un-freakin’-believable!!!!!!!!!!! I cannot believe what I am reading here, I cannot believe it. This should make EVERYBODY take to the streets and riot, because if the fascists can do this, they can charge ANYBODY with ANYTHING.

In the course of committing a felony?? Did I miss something here? Did Zimmerman feel Trayvon up before he shot him? Did he take nude photos of him?

I pray the jury is not falling for this tripe, but I wouldn’t doubt it being that is probably fixed as well.


25 posted on 07/11/2013 9:21:44 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

“Now you’re gonna know what it’s like to be ruled by the black man.”

— NBP thug at Philadelphia polling place, November, 2008


26 posted on 07/11/2013 9:21:51 AM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: Sopater

So after the defense rests, a new charge is brought into play. Nothing like changing the game after the game is over.


27 posted on 07/11/2013 9:21:59 AM PDT by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: Sopater

1st Villager: ‘e’s a witch! Burn ‘im!”
2nd Villager: “’ow do you know ‘e’s a witch?”
1st villager: “Uh ... ummm... ‘E LOOKS like one! Burn ‘im!”


28 posted on 07/11/2013 9:22:15 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: DesScorp

If this is the case, and there are not riots in the streets by Zimmerman supporters, then we deserve what is to come. “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn


29 posted on 07/11/2013 9:22:54 AM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: Sopater; All

This case becomes more preposterous by the minute, the state does not want justice, it just wants to lynch someone.


30 posted on 07/11/2013 9:23:05 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Sopater

I’ll say it again: this is a high-tech necklacing.


31 posted on 07/11/2013 9:23:44 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: All

Looks more and more like a mistrial in the making, mark my words.


32 posted on 07/11/2013 9:23:59 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Windcatcher

I have no doubt that this is just what one would expect.


33 posted on 07/11/2013 9:24:06 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
From the link regarding 3rd degree murder:

Reason for fight about murder3: If #Zimmerman is so convicted, he'll face a life sentence under 10-20-life. #Trayvon, #Zimmerman.

34 posted on 07/11/2013 9:24:37 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Sopater

The fix is in, Zimmerman will never be a free man again. Holder, obama, sharpton, and all of the race baiting pimps, and their political whores and judicial lackeys, will make sure that they either get riots, or a dead Zimmerman, with riots. The rule of law is dead in America. Welcome to the new lawless land.


35 posted on 07/11/2013 9:24:39 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Sopater
Some "children" just need killin'.

You would think liberals would agree.

36 posted on 07/11/2013 9:26:14 AM PDT by Envisioning (It's the Jihad, stupid......)
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To: Sopater

38 posted on 07/11/2013 9:27:18 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Sopater

Child abuse? WTF? This is law abuse by the judge! I think a child should run up to her, punch her in the nose then knock her to the ground and beat her head against the floor repeatedly!


39 posted on 07/11/2013 9:27:40 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Third Person

He should join Snowden.


40 posted on 07/11/2013 9:27:45 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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