Posted on 06/20/2013 5:29:54 PM PDT by Maelstorm
This bit of science arcanum is especially cringe-worthy. Many years ago, scientists first discovered that a large minority of women have Y-chromosome gene sequences in their blood. At first glance, this seems strange. Men are born with Y-chromosomes but most women are not. The male cells in these women mustve come from somewhere else.
But where?
The most obvious source is a fetus. Nearly every woman who has ever been pregnant or had a baby has cells from her fetus circulating in her bloodstream. These cells filter through the placenta and reside in the mothers bloodstream and/or organs including her heart and brain for the rest of her life. This condition is called microchimerism, named after the Greek chimera, a creature composed of the parts of multiple animals. Pregnancy-related microchimerism explains why women with sons would have Y-chromosome sequences in their blood.
This is fascinating enough. But how do you explain why women without sons also have male cells circulating in their bloodstream?
This was the subject of a study by immunologists at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center. They took blood samples from 120 women without sons and found that 21 percent of them had male DNA. Women were then categorized into four groups according to pregnancy history: women with daughters only, spontaneous abortions, induced abortions, and no children/no abortions.
While the number of women bearing male DNA was highest in the groups that had abortions (nearly 80 percent), women who had only girls or no babies (20 percent) also had male cells in their blood. For no apparent reason.
There are other reasons why women in the fourth group carried male cells: inherited in the womb from a male twin that passed, from a miscarriage they did not know about, from their mother via an older brother
Or through sexual intercourse. -
There remains a possibility, however remote, that cells from a lover may pass be transmitted during sex. Those cells may hang out forever in the recipients body, taking residence in any organ. These cells are the imprint of lovers past, a trace of living history.
Might a womans bodily fluids enter a cut in a mans genitals as well? Could men carry around the genes of women theyve slept with?
The imagination is stirred. What are those foreign cells doing in hearts and minds? Are they wreaking havoc in our heads? Do the cells of former lovers clash? In a science fiction scenario a person could even take a drop of her own blood, isolate a cell from her former boyfriend, and clone him. Then do with him what she will.
The upshot of this research? Its yet another reason to use a condom.
They don't. Urban myth.
The body flushes out almost everything not attached or encased (brain). If it didn't we'd be in a WORLD OF HURT.
Since we're not, men don't.
AND, Mary had cells from Jesus with here the rest of her life ...
Reference, please.
They weren’t saying a piece of it, but the whole chromosome? That’s weird.
“AND, Mary had cells from Jesus with here the rest of her life ...”
Hmmmm... John 6:26 “Amen, amen I say to you, you seek me, not because you have seen miricles, but because you did eat the loaves, and were filled.” And then 6:53
Recently, Kim Kardashian made noise about 'eating her placenta'. I seriously doubt that her mother preserved it for her all these years. She is ignorant of the fact that it is the gestating child that makes the palcenta, not the mother. But what do we expect from vacuous brained media personae?
I do not have a clearance to pull the reports from CDC to post for you. But in one of them it was also noted that female mosquitos can carry HIV as a vector, albeit a short-lived vector.
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Thanks Maelstorm. I mostly blame Laz.Many years ago, scientists first discovered that a large minority of women have Y-chromosome gene sequences in their blood.To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. |
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You’re thinking about herpes, not HIV.
***** “every woman who has ever been pregnant or had a baby
Fascinating sentence construction.” ******
Depends on how old you are, if you made it past Born Alive...
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It just seems that if pubic hair follicle transmission of HIV were possible, there would many more female-male cases, many more cases of heterosexual transmission, and even casual transmission during sports, hair cutting - after all if pubic follicles transmit the virus, why not body hair or head hair follicles? Why not more inexplicable infections?
I tried my own search before I asked - couldn’t find anything. Even tried PubMed. Why would the CDC keep it quiet?
No, I am specifically saying HIV. A doctor with whom I played golf and called on professionally, and whom I believe without question told me of papers which were sent to him as a member of the CDC, detailing the story of the HIV passed to male soldiers by German prostitutes. In that same paper the mosquito vector was included as something the CDC needed to alert their field investigators to in South Florida. I’m 68, nearly. But I have a very good memory for details which were connected to my profession.
My father in law hated Teddie that he held on, lingering on his death bed, until he heard the news that the evil bastard had passed away. Then he let go, and died that night in his sleep.
“I do not have a clearance to pull the reports from CDC to post for you.”
By what authority would the CDC refuse a FOIA request on these matters?
I have been thinking about this very thing from a more religious aspect- I didn't have the terminology (microchimerism), but the thought is truly thought provoking, culminating perhaps in DNA (what a marvel) not being a static record or blueprint, but rather a dynamic record of YOU, residing in every cell...
Genesis 6 is what has been driving me lately - The 'Sons of God' lying with the daughters of men... Noah being chosen because he was perfect in his generations... Pre-flood corruption of everything that drew breath (not just humans)... It is a VERY interesting passage if one can step outside of religious teaching and look at what it says.
And it is not all past... Homosexuals receive the reward for their iniquity in their bodies (are adulterers any different?). That is a real-time promise.
And future: Daniels statue speaks of a time (during the reign of the 10 toes) where 'they' will attempt to mingle their seed with the seed of men.... Who exactly is that 'they'?
I think that we are opening the lid to Pandora's box with all the chimerism we are doing now - And the Bible says it has happened before.
And I think we have no idea how serious God's commandments are - why they are - Is there a reason why we are not to eat pork? Can it have anything to do with how close the pig is to what a human is? Why the exclusion of meat from predators? Shellfish?
Maybe the answers are very close to what you offer here... Something far more visceral than any religion has understood... I dunno. Just sayin'.
Thanks for the post. very cool.
The remaining fetal cells are not restricted to the uterus. They enter her blood, and are distributed throughout her body. Male cells have been recovered from old women's brains at autopsy, fifty years or longer after they had children.
You would think one would be a subset of the other, wouldn't you?
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