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You need to realize the magnitude of this — the US government ignores and excludes the legitimate government in Afghanistan to talk to the Terrorists in Afghanistan — remember that the Taliban supported Al Qaeda, that's why we went into Afghanistan and got rid of the Taliban government in the first place.

And now Obama is negotiating with the terrorists, behind the back of the legitimate Afghan government.

1 posted on 06/19/2013 5:33:57 AM PDT by Innovative
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Note — the other article posted with a similar title is a DIFFERENT article, it’s from the WP and it OMITS the most important part, that the US is talking to the Taliban, EXCLUDING the Afghan gov — your Mainstream Media protecting Obama,again.

Karzai suspends security talks with U.S.; Taliban rockets kill 4 Americans

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3033043/posts


2 posted on 06/19/2013 5:36:24 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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Obama is surrendering to the terrorists, you mean. That has been his objective all along.

Karzai certainly wasn’t great, but that’s because even before Obama, we allowed the Afghan government to be set up adhering to a sharia-based constitution. However, even this wasn’t radical enough for Obama, and he wants to go whole hog and show the jihadis how much he loves them - in Afghanistan and everywhere.

He regards them as the ultimate anti-Western and anti-American force, and this is the only principle that truly motivates him.


3 posted on 06/19/2013 5:37:32 AM PDT by livius
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“And now Obama is negotiating with the terrorists, behind the back of the legitimate Afghan government.”

I’m thinking Big Media will trot out the story again of how Karzai’s hats are made, to disgust enough Americans into agreeing that the left’s god should toss Afghanistan to the wolves.


4 posted on 06/19/2013 5:38:52 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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as usual, obama was very accurate. that did last a long time; less than a day.


6 posted on 06/19/2013 5:48:22 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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0bama’s entire foreign policy is in utter shambles. We p.o. our allies and foes alike, throw anyone under the bus who have helped us in the past. There is no trust and the wolves sense (rightfully so) weakness.

And with Kerry and Hagel as the other two 0bama pointmen on the world stage, we literally have the 3 stooges. (no offense to Moe, Larry and Curly)


7 posted on 06/19/2013 5:57:34 AM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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Look, if the old USSR came to the United States in the 60’s...

and decided to ‘negotiate’ with Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground ... rather than President Johnson...

I’m sure we wouldn’t have objected./s

Right?


9 posted on 06/19/2013 6:01:18 AM PDT by GOPJ (Why don't Democrats waste their time trying to win the votes of gun owners? - Coulter)
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Richard Nixon negotiated with the commies in Vietnam and cut a deal with them pressuring the South Vietnamese government of the time (Nugyen Van Thieu and Nugyen Cao Key) to cave in.

After this is over hopefully for Karzai’s sake he’ll get asylum in the US when the Taliban wins just like Thieu and Ky got it when the Communists won in Vietnam in 197.5


11 posted on 06/19/2013 6:05:32 AM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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https://publicintelligence.net/karzai-aide-in-corruption-scandal-works-for-cia/


13 posted on 06/19/2013 6:16:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Cozy up to enemies and alienate (former) friends.
0bama has done that from day one in office.
His contempt for all western countries, US allies and their leaders is obvious.

15 posted on 06/19/2013 6:32:04 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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Obama wants to cut and run before his term is up so he can claim that he got us out of 2 wars...


18 posted on 06/19/2013 6:41:18 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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This sounds like the Vietnam tactic whereby a young communist activist named John Kerry met with the Vietcong in Paris and arranged for a diplomatic coup - a humiliating defeat for the US in Vietnam.


20 posted on 06/19/2013 7:03:22 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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Obama is negotiating with the terrorists


21 posted on 06/19/2013 7:16:58 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama is trying to use the power of the government against the people he dislikes.)
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In case anyone has forgotten, even the UN did not recongnize the Taliban years ago. They are THAT bad.


22 posted on 06/19/2013 7:32:06 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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Obama is probably negotiating a cease fire on green on blue attacks, for the appearance of success, after doubling down on “nation building” -remember that Obama calls this “the good war”.

If Karzai is taking anti-depressants as has been speculated then he’s going to need them by the handful when Obama draws down forces.

They should hunt down what’s left of the Taliban leadership like the wolf pack that they are.


24 posted on 06/19/2013 7:38:06 AM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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Just like how Kissinger excluded the South Vietnamese from his secret negotiations with the North Vietnamese. Karzai is going to end up just like Thieu, or worse Diem.


30 posted on 06/19/2013 8:13:22 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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Taliban members just killed 4 US troops and wounded 6 with rocket attacks on Bagram Air Base last night. Agreements should not be in our vocabulary, only death or submission on our terms.

These attacks happen often yet the powers that be cannot even give the order to aggressively secure the perimeter of one of the biggest/important FOB in the theater (Bush and Obama).

32 posted on 06/19/2013 9:22:43 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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Why would Karzai need to be involved? All he needs to know is what day is power handed over and when does his plane leave.


41 posted on 06/19/2013 2:09:08 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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Karzai isn’t great but on this one, I 100% agree with his decision. Imagine just completely bypassing a legitimate government over the enemy!

Oh wait! We’re talking about obama. Never mind!


47 posted on 06/19/2013 8:02:33 PM PDT by luvie (All my heroes wear camos!)
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Apparently there was enough backlash, so that:

Afghanistan peace talks: US-Taliban meeting in Qatar cancelled

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/20/afghanistan-talks-taliban-qatar-cancelled

“Repeated phone calls by John Kerry, the US secretary of state, appeared not to have mollified Karzai, who accused the Obama administration of duplicity. Irritated by a press conference in Qatar at which the Taliban attempted to portray themselves as a government in exile, Karzai suspended talks on a long-term security deal to keep US troops in Afghanistan after Nato leaves in 2014.

News on Tuesday that American diplomats would sit down with Taliban leaders – the first direct talks since the US helped oust the group from power in 2001 – prompted speculation that real progress towards a negotiated end to the war in Afghanistan might be in sight.

But while the Taliban hinted at meeting US demands of a break with al-Qaida – saying Afghan soil should not be used to harm other countries – there was only the barest of nods to Kabul’s request that they talk to the current administration and respect Afghanistan’s constitution. The group infuriated Karzai by displaying a white Taliban flag and repeatedly referring to the “Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan”, the name the group used when they ruled from Kabul.”

The whole idea for the US government to undermine the legitimate government of Afghanistan to negotiate with the terrorists (remember, the Taliban allowed Al Qaeda to plan and practice that 9-11 attacks) bypassing the legitimate gov of Afghanistan is a clear signal that the US (i.e. Obama government) supports the terrorists.

Apparently they finally figured it out that they shouldn’t support the terrorists quite so openly...


49 posted on 06/20/2013 7:08:17 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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The handover of Afganistan to the Taliban has begun.


50 posted on 06/20/2013 7:55:32 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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