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Surpreme Court Strikes Down AZ Voter Law
Surpreme Court ^ | 6/17/13

Posted on 06/17/2013 7:30:44 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55

Sup Ct strikes down AZ law requiring proof of US citizenship for those seeking to vote in fed election. 7-2

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; arizona; mobrule; scotus; voting
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To: ConservativeMan55

Thomas has the better argument.

141 posted on 06/17/2013 8:45:36 AM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: struggle
The conflict here seems to be that federal law simply states that the person affirm “under threat of [prosecution]” that they are or are not a citizen. The Arizona law takes the extra step of rejecting any registration that does not accompany proof of citizenry, which is seen as an undue burden.

Easily solved: AZ legislature now passes a measure that implements the following:

1. 60-day voter registration waiting period for those affirming citizenship by signature. During that period, state of AZ aggressively verifies citizenship by any legal means available to them.
2. Waiting period waived for anyone offering valid proof of citizenship at time of affirmation.
3. If state determines citizenship is not valid, or state cannot verify citizenship within the 60 day waiting period, state shall notify the applicant. An appeal may be made by the applicant with proper documentation.
4. If no appeal is made within 30 days of notification, state is obligated to aggressively prosecute the applicant on the basis of perjury.

142 posted on 06/17/2013 8:45:52 AM PDT by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Indiana has a great system for letting only registered voters cast a ballot, they should have copied ours word for word, it has already made it through the courts.

143 posted on 06/17/2013 8:46:24 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: ConservativeMan55

What in the legal reasoning of the decision do you disagree with? If you just object to the result you run the risk of sounding like a liberal who believes the courts should just make policy? This looks to be a decision based on pre-emption doctrine.

144 posted on 06/17/2013 8:46:48 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: Captain Rhino

I like your analysis... so skip my solution suggestion above and just go with this one.

145 posted on 06/17/2013 8:47:44 AM PDT by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: skeeter

SCALIA, J., delivered the opinion of the Court,

in which
and KAGAN,JJ., joined,

and in which

KENNEDY, J., joined in part.

KENNEDY, J., filed an opinion concurring in part and concurring in the judgment.

THOMAS, J., and
ALITO, J., filed dissenting opinions

146 posted on 06/17/2013 8:49:56 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Perdogg

Thank you for the clarification Perdogg!

147 posted on 06/17/2013 8:50:01 AM PDT by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: dragnet2
People just can't seem to figure out what is happening, right in front of their eyes.

After spending a couple of day being raked over the coals of perdition for trying to point out one of our candidates wanted to grant instant legalization and a pathway for illegal immigrants, I know just what you mean.

It doesn't matter what you provide to people, they just think what they want to think. Facts don't matter. The actual words of their idol don't matter.

It's right there in front of their eyes, and permeating their ear drums. They still can't grasp it. They refuse to grasp it.

No, they don't get what Proposition 187 was all about. They don't see the ramification. They don't give a fig.

They come here and profess to be solid Conservatives, and then proceed to do whatever they want in the name of Conservatism. Never-mind that they are the enablers, no the very foot-soldiers the Left needs to defeat us.

It just doesn't matter. They see what they want to see.

Apathy... it's all the rage right now.

148 posted on 06/17/2013 8:50:37 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Now playing... [ * * * Manchurian Candidate * * * ], limited engagement, 8 years...)
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To: Vaquero
It is simple. The majority, those predisposed to p!ss on the states, erroneously relied on Article I Section 4. They twisted it, The Federalist, and ratification debates into incoherent mush.

The minority wrote beautiful rebuttals based on Article I Section 2 Clause 1. Notwithstanding limits imposed by some amendments, the states have complete authority to determine voter qualifications.

This is what happens when Senators consent to federal judges hostile to the 10th Amendment. Thank the 17th.

149 posted on 06/17/2013 8:52:49 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

Read this headline on Drudge and declared sadly, America died....anarchy and chaos to reign now!

150 posted on 06/17/2013 8:54:07 AM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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All we need to do is lose the House

Except that you don't HAVE the House. You have 70 (maybe) Members and 7-10 Senators on your side. ALL of the others, whatever they call themselves, represent and are working for the ruling coalition.

The ruling coalition is united around several things that the people are against. They are skilled at setting up phony issues (or issues that don’t concern the Federal government) to break up the formation of any possible other coalition.

Republicans and Democrats agree that the purpose of the State is redistribution. How much, and to whom, and under what circumstances, there are disagreements. But no elected officials of either Party believe that it is wrong to take from you and give to another of their own choosing, for reasons that make sense to them.

Republicans and Democrats agree that you have “rights” - lots of them. They also agree that any question ABOUT your “rights”, or whether or not something IS a “right”, should not be decided by a political process because that is “divisive”. So, they both agree that the voice of “the People” as contemplated in Articles IX and X can only be voiced by nine unelected life tenure judges, and that five of them, at any time or for any reason, can give new “rights” and take away old ones, particularly if those old ones arise out of majority voting.

Republicans and Democrats all believe in “diversity”. They, ignoring completely the results of all social science research on this subject, and contrary to millennia of human experience and wisdom, believe that the more “diverse” our country, its institutions, and any private entities within her become, the more cohesive and productive we will become.

Republicans and Democrats almost all believe in “free trade” and “immigration”. These things are good for various constituencies of both parties while they wreck the economy and the nation.

Many of the People, perhaps a majority, do not believe in any of these things. But in our existing system, captive as it is to the MSM-mandated “process” for choosing two candidates for POTUS neither of whom will change a thing, leaves the People with no voice.

Something’s gonna blow.

151 posted on 06/17/2013 8:55:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

It’s official folks, we’ve lost our country. The only recourse is secession.

152 posted on 06/17/2013 8:56:31 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: ConservativeMan55

153 posted on 06/17/2013 8:57:16 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
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This is the next step in the fall of the U.S.A. No controls, no requirements to vote, no checks to stop anyone from voting more than one time.

While other states were sleeping, CA voters overwhelmingly passed PROP 187 in 1994. It would have denied criminal illegal aliens from using health care, public education, and other social services in California. (

The majority of CA had enough, way back then.

The free vote won big...The overwhelming majority of Californians won!!

Then the Feds stepped in with their state co-conspirators and burned our ballots and declared our free election illegal.

The results of this epic government intrusion and punitive government control, can now been seen in every state in the U.S.

154 posted on 06/17/2013 8:57:58 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ConservativeMan55

One of the stupidest decisions EVER!! They will live to regret it.

155 posted on 06/17/2013 8:59:53 AM PDT by luvie (All my heroes wear camos!)
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To: ConservativeMan55

National suicide.

156 posted on 06/17/2013 9:00:55 AM PDT by tpmintx (Gun free zones are hunting preserves for unarmed people.)
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when did the supreme court ever live to regret anything. Most of them are in a bubble, effectwize, securitywize, and financially.

157 posted on 06/17/2013 9:01:58 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: central_va

The national government is consolidated, just as our Framing generation feared. The 17th made it possible. The occasional conservative we send to Congress or even the presidency will make little difference.

Reform cannot come from Wash DC. It must come from the people via their states.

158 posted on 06/17/2013 9:02:17 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: EEGator

That is good news! (Why are the Heat so hateable?)

159 posted on 06/17/2013 9:03:11 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Mr. President, can you hear a special prosecutor now?)
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To: Jim Noble

we are contributing to it by giving support to the republican party which treats conservatism like a bastard step-child.

It’s refreshing to hear Paul and Cruz and a few committee members, but they are not running the party.

We keep doing the same thing and we keep getting the same results ever since 84.

It’s time to move on and I don’t mean dot org.

160 posted on 06/17/2013 9:03:21 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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