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Marco Rubio: In immigration reform, legalization comes first — ‘It is not conditional’
washington examiner ^ | 6-10-13 | byron york

Posted on 06/10/2013 11:57:02 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

In a Spanish-language interview Sunday with the network Univision, Sen. Marco Rubio, the leading Republican on the Gang of Eight comprehensive immigration reform group, made his strongest statement yet that legalization of the nation’s estimated 11 million illegal immigrants must happen before any new border security or internal enforcement measures are in place, and will in no way be conditional on any security requirements.

“Let’s be clear,” Rubio said. “Nobody is talking about preventing the legalization...

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To: ScottinVA

So... if legalization comes BEFORE securing the border, does anyone with any operating brain cells actually believe we won’t be flooded with additional untold millions of illegals coming in for said legalization?
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Yes, and if the amnesty of the early 1980s is any indication, there will be MASSIVE document fraud to “prove” that those border jumpers were here before the “deadline”. Remember, the progressive federal government bureaucrats will write the regs and then administer the legalization process. It will go on for years and there will be millions & millions more given amnesty than they are saying.

Take that to the bank.


221 posted on 06/11/2013 5:24:46 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Phillyred

If they don’t rush it through now the Democrats might lose


222 posted on 06/11/2013 5:31:12 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: Bikkuri

a constrained Libertarian is not as dangerous...


223 posted on 06/11/2013 5:40:03 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: TurboZamboni

anyone want to speculate how long until Rubio switches parties?


224 posted on 06/11/2013 5:51:06 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: DoughtyOne

This is especially true when the new guy or girl is a minority that the GOP is so desperate to attract.


225 posted on 06/11/2013 5:53:39 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: chopperjc
The GOP is already irrelevant. They can’t win a national election anymore. GHW Bush 60% of white vote = 400 EV Romney 60% of white vote = 200 EV Immigration reform will not make the GOP any more or less relevant.

That's a little misleading. The GOP took huge hits because white turnout was lower than black turnout by almost 10%, and non-white turnout was pretty good. Ultimately, Romney was viewed by what would have been (white) Reagan Democrats as an elitist who would screw the little guy. In both 2008 and 2012, white turnout was tepid compared to 2004. Ultimately, Obama's whole schtick is getting minorities to the voting booth.

226 posted on 06/11/2013 7:00:02 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: grumpygresh

How optimistic can you be when you realize that there is no convincing a majority who are low information voters who only vote for who Hollywood says is “cool”, or people who only vote based upon their race?

There is no “plan” when the dumb masses with ever open beaks just vote for whoever is going to deliver the next mouthful of worm puree...the real solution is something that Rush cant say on the air....we simply have to separate from these people.

One man one vote has killed the America we grew up in.


227 posted on 06/11/2013 7:13:53 AM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Wake me when we get to the part where we alter or abolish it.)
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To: Zhang Fei

And they are going to do the same stuff next cycle with Hitlery.

Hollywood will go into full swing about the “historic” first Woman President, Benghazi will be rewritten a la animal farm so that she was actually on scene repelling a mortar attack personally. Boatloads of goodies for the Blacks/Latinos will secure their votes, and coupled with the idiots who will vote for whoever Brangelina tells them to will push her over the top.

And we will sit her and try to find political reasons for whatever decent guy (and I do believe Romney was a decent guy) we ran wasn’t good enough. Some will say “not conservative enough” and some will say “didn’t reach independents” and still others will say “not diverse enough”....but none are the truth. The truth is that its about greed (gimmie gimmie gimmie) and race (VIVA LA RAZA!). We’re past where voting will help this.


228 posted on 06/11/2013 7:19:23 AM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Wake me when we get to the part where we alter or abolish it.)
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To: itsahoot

You may very well be right.


229 posted on 06/11/2013 7:58:20 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama lied, four men died, and he went to hide...)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Yep, that’s true. Rubio was someone we hoped would be one of us. Frankly, folks, they do see us as terrorists. None of them want to be one with us.


230 posted on 06/11/2013 7:59:53 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama lied, four men died, and he went to hide...)
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To: Zhang Fei

Mia-leading? Shtick? Ok let’s examine those numbers further because to ignore demographics is to ignore reality. First lets look at census in 2000 which showed non- Hispanic white population at 69.1, in 2000
This number slid to 63.7. I won’t even get into birth rates or grade school registration.

Now lets look at past presidential elections. A common misconception is that the minority share of the vote experienced an unsustainable surge in 2008 because of Obama’s history-making status as the first African-American presidential nominee. In fact, the growth in the minority role has been steady over the past two decades, according to exit polls. From 12 percent in 1992, the minority share of the vote increased to 17 percent in 1996, 21 percent in 2000, and 23 percent in 2004, 26 percent level in 2008 and of course in 2012 28%. Remember unskewed polls? To think the number will drop next time for Hillary or whomever is ignoring history and the census.


231 posted on 06/11/2013 8:04:51 AM PDT by chopperjc
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To: TurboZamboni

When you moderates (and you know who you are) were walking around being the smartest people in the room, is this what you wanted?

The quest to make the American government more centrist has led to the hardest left wing swing in American politics. :(


232 posted on 06/11/2013 9:23:41 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker; Borax Queen
I liked Rubio before he started this gang of eight nonsense. His defense of the free market, his criticism of the direction Bambi was taking us was excellent, now he's cosponsoring a Kennedy/Schumer/Bambi destroy America amnesty bill.

I have no idea why he's destroying himself with this stuff, or why he doesn't see how this will make all of America into the voting shadow of California, it just disgusts me.

233 posted on 06/11/2013 9:32:11 AM PDT by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

Makes you wonder what they snagged regarding him, in their data mining.


234 posted on 06/11/2013 10:11:02 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama lied, four men died, and he went to hide...)
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To: chopperjc
Now lets look at past presidential elections. A common misconception is that the minority share of the vote experienced an unsustainable surge in 2008 because of Obama’s history-making status as the first African-American presidential nominee. In fact, the growth in the minority role has been steady over the past two decades, according to exit polls. From 12 percent in 1992, the minority share of the vote increased to 17 percent in 1996, 21 percent in 2000, and 23 percent in 2004, 26 percent level in 2008 and of course in 2012 28%. Remember unskewed polls? To think the number will drop next time for Hillary or whomever is ignoring history and the census.

My argument has nothing to do with demographics, and everything to do with turnout as a % of the existing ethnic groups. In 2012, white turnout was in the low 60% range. Black turnout was in the low 70% range. Black turnout has traditionally been lower than white turnout, which is why the 2010 mid-term elections led to the GOP domination of the House. Ultimately, the GOP needs candidates who get whites excited enough to show up. Obama is the black Reagan - just as Reagan got whites to show up, Obama got blacks energized. Demographics isn't the whole story - what it really comes down to is getting your people to vote. If Romney had gotten whites to show up at the polls in the proportions that they did in 2004, he would have won the popular vote.

235 posted on 06/11/2013 3:19:34 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Phillyred
Because if Americans have time to figure out that amnesty is going to be the end of America as we know it and current American citizens , Republican and Democrat alike are soon going to be made irrelevant when they are swamped by tens of millions of illiterate third world voters who will vote for the Politician who is willing to pander to them he promises the high bid for their vote
236 posted on 06/11/2013 3:38:06 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: TurboZamboni

SELL OUT. Do NOT ever support this guy again. That’s meant for ALL. His dream is dead but unfortunately, so is OUR dream of the founding fathers. The INVASION has already begun and it’s not Canadians, my amigos.


237 posted on 06/11/2013 4:12:50 PM PDT by floriduh voter (I left cable and don't miss its nothingness. ROKU is awesome.)
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To: TurboZamboni
I have RUBIO'S TOLL FREE NUMBER IN ORLANDO RIGHT HERE. Maybe somebody should send him this URL?

Marco Rubio, !-866-630-7106.

If his staff says you can't lv a message cuz you're NOT FROM FLORIDA, say the ILLEGALS ARE NOT FROM THE UNITED STATES so there, Marco, SELLOUT. He's a traitor to our sovereignty and as I told his office recently, "KABOOM" was coming to a city near us.

PLEASE CALL WHETHER YOU ARE FROM FLORIDA OR NOT. I can't think of enough skanky words to describe what I think of his brand of patriotism which is screw America.

238 posted on 06/11/2013 4:16:58 PM PDT by floriduh voter (I left cable and don't miss its nothingness. ROKU is awesome.)
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To: TurboZamboni

They’re p-oed at facebook too. Keep those skanky GOP presidential candidates comin’. Yours truly, NPA but conservative versus Reince and his gang of socialist sellouts. This is why they want to do a gun grab. Do a gun grab so we cannot defend ourselves when we’re being robbed or slaughtered by the
“gentle, in the shadows” UNDOCUMENTED DEMOCRATS. I believe that Marco Rubio is an UNDOCUMENTED DEMOCRAT.


239 posted on 06/11/2013 4:21:27 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Marco Rubio GET OUTTA TOWN. YOU ANTI-AMERICAN.)
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To: raybbr

What about the House? Don’t they have to vote on it? Can our dictator over rule the House?????


240 posted on 06/11/2013 4:22:14 PM PDT by floriduh voter (Marco Rubio GET OUTTA TOWN. YOU ANTI-AMERICAN.)
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