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White House defense: Visitor logs too unreliable to reveal whether Shulman visited 157 times
The Daily Caller ^ | 5-31-2013 | Vince Coglianese

Posted on 06/01/2013 8:45:42 AM PDT by smoothsailing

May 31, 2013

White House defense: Visitor logs too unreliable to reveal whether Shulman actually visited 157 times

Vince Coglianese

The White House on Friday pushed back against news that former IRS Commissioner Douglas Shulman visited the White House at least 157 times from 2009 to 2012.

Shulman is a central figure in the IRS’s targeting of conservative groups, having led the agency while those groups were singled out for harassment.

When challenged last week by congressional investigators about just 118 of the 157 apparent White House visits, Shulman did not dispute the number, only identifying several reasons why he visited so often.

“Um, the Easter Egg Roll with my kids,” Shulman said. “Questions about the administrability of tax policy they were thinking of; our budget; us helping the Department of Education streamline application processes for financial aid.”

The Daily Caller first reported on Thursday that White House visitor access records show “Douglas Shulman” with 157 publicly disclosed visits in that time frame. By comparison, no Obama cabinet member comes close in terms of publicly disclosed visits.

The liberal Atlantic website published a piece Friday morning speculating that the number of Shulman’s actual White House visits could be as low as 11, despite widespread coverage of those revelations on Thursday.

“Complicating the picture is the fact that just because a meeting was scheduled and Shulman was cleared to attend it does not mean that he actually went,” wrote The Atlantic, suggesting that Shulman may have skipped out on up to 146 different White House meetings he was expected at — despite his name appearing on the visitors logs for those meetings.

The Atlantic offers no source for that claim, but Dan Pfeiffer — White House senior adviser to the president for strategy and communications — latched onto the article Friday morning on his official White House Twitter account. “Def Worth a Read,” Pfeiffer tweeted, marking the first time the White House has addressed Shulman’s unusually frequent visits.

The claim that White House visitor records might only show information about a visitor’s pre-clearance — and not an actual visit — is not something the White House reveals in its disclosure policy. Additionally, as TheDC has previously reported, not every visit by top administration officials requires that the official physically signs in.

Some visits by top officials are never even noted in the visitors logs. A comparison of the situation room photo from the night of the bin Laden raid — May 1, 2011 — to the visitor logs, for example, shows that several of the officials in the photo never appear in the public access records.

The White House voluntary disclosure policy does reveal that visitor names are often left off the logs for a variety of reasons — listed below — including personal visitors of the president and national security.

While the White House has fought to keep individuals who fall under those exceptions away from the public eye, Friday’s pushback against Shulman’s name appearing 157 times in the logs appears to mark the first time the White House has suggested that visitors who appear in the access records may not have visited at all.

The White House did not respond to The Daily Caller’s multiple requests for comment for clarification, for either this report or Thursday’s.

When asked about Pfeiffer’s tweet in the White House press briefing Friday afternoon, White House Deputy Press Secretary Josh Earnest did not dispute that Shulman visited the White House at least 157 times, only saying that the president was committed to “transparency” and that most of the meetings Shulman attended involved Obamacare.

See the reasons why the White House says it leaves names off the visitors logs:

  1. The White House will not release fields within the access records that implicate personal privacy or law enforcement concerns (e.g., dates of birth, social security numbers, and contact phone numbers); records that implicate the personal safety of EOP staff (their daily arrival and departure); or records whose release would threaten national security interests.

  2. The White House will not release access records related to purely personal guests of the first and second families (i.e., visits that do not involve any official or political business).

  3. The White House will not release access records related to a small group of particularly sensitive meetings (e.g., visits of potential Supreme Court nominees). The White House will disclose each month the number of records withheld on this basis, and it will release such records once they are no longer sensitive.

  4. Visitor information for the Vice President and his staff at the White House Complex will be disclosed pursuant to the policy outlined above. It is not possible, however, to release visitor information for the Vice President’s Residence in an identical format to the White House Complex at this time because the Residence is not equipped with the WAVES and ACR systems that are in place at the White House Complex. The Office of the Vice President will, instead, release the guest lists for official events at the Residence and will also review the Vice President’s and Dr. Biden’s daily schedules and release the names and dates of visitors to the Residence who appear on those schedules. The Vice President’s staff is working with the Secret Service to upgrade the visitor records system at the Residence. When the electronic update is complete, visitor information for the White House Complex and the Residence will be released in a common format.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: benghazi; bho44; bhoirs; dogatmyhomework; fastandfurious; impeachnow; irs; obamabreakspromises; obamalies; obamascandals; shulman; transparency
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To: txnativegop
How utterly lame! Obama really expects people to believe this BS?

Most people will believe it, or at least thing it's plausible enough to let Obama off the hook.

If Obama issued a statement saying the problem is due to misplaced decimal point, and Shulman only visited the White House 1.57 times, people would accept that too.

21 posted on 06/01/2013 8:58:02 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: smoothsailing
When I worked for a defense contractor we had to sign into any secure location we went. Sure, sometimes we would have our clearance information forwarded and then not show up if a meeting was canceled or if we didn't now who would attend so just sent all the potential visitors' info, but that never changed the need to actually sign on the visitors' log when we showed up.

I expect that the White House would be much, much more strict that the defense locations I went to, so I call BS on this whole thing. About the only possibility is people getting special access without signing in the log, but that means 157 would be the minimum number of times Shulman went to the White House.

22 posted on 06/01/2013 8:58:35 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

They could invite Lady Gaga, all the wrestlers from WWE, and even some dead voters into the White House....no one would really know.


23 posted on 06/01/2013 9:00:31 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: KarlInOhio

I believe if Shulman was a personal guest of the kenyan that visit wouldn’t even be in the logs.


24 posted on 06/01/2013 9:01:35 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Leaning Right

Gee! Thanks for just dropping me into the gutter of despair. (sobbing uncontrollably) LOL.


25 posted on 06/01/2013 9:01:42 AM PDT by txnativegop (Fed up with zealots)
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To: rktman

'Some visits by top officials are never even noted in the visitors logs. A comparison of the situation room photo from the night of the bin Laden raid — May 1, 2011 — to the visitor logs, for example, shows that several of the officials in the photo never appear in the public access records."

26 posted on 06/01/2013 9:02:39 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

This is getting really stupid.


27 posted on 06/01/2013 9:03:30 AM PDT by mom.mom
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To: smoothsailing

TRANSLATION: “He visited a lot more than 157 times.”


28 posted on 06/01/2013 9:04:01 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: smoothsailing

The next one will be.....the WH knows at least 157 different Douglas Shulmans.


29 posted on 06/01/2013 9:04:59 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: FlingWingFlyer

These people can’t maintain a log of White House visitors, but they are going to control all the details of our healthcare, among other issues. Go figure............


30 posted on 06/01/2013 9:06:02 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Travis McGee

I would also like to know who the 2nd, 3rd and 4th people are who visited. Who are they and why did they visit so often?


31 posted on 06/01/2013 9:06:12 AM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (God help the Republic but will he?)
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To: smoothsailing

Hey IRS, I’m not sure I actually earned that income. Can I get a refund? You know I meant to earn the income (I was pre-cleared), but I’m not sure I actually earned it. Give me my money back......


32 posted on 06/01/2013 9:09:54 AM PDT by GotMojo
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
TRANSLATION: “He visited a lot more than 157 times.”

Bingo! We have a winner.

5.56mm

33 posted on 06/01/2013 9:10:00 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: oh8eleven

So maybe the 157 times was maybe not the right figure?

Could it be....the actual number was MUCH, MUCH higher, almost a daily occurrence, perhaps?

Nowhere is it recorded that Rush Limbaugh has visited the WH even ONCE during the term of the Current Occupant.

Yet Rush has been living rent-free inside their heads all this time.


34 posted on 06/01/2013 9:12:17 AM PDT by alloysteel (If you want to see the true measure of a man, watch how he treats his inferiors, not his equals.)
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To: smoothsailing

hummm! are they suggesting one cannot trust the Secret Service documents??


35 posted on 06/01/2013 9:13:02 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: smoothsailing; All

I’m confused.

Aren’t sign in and guest logs admissible in courts of laws to establish alibis. Or used as exhibits to establish guide and time lines in either prosecution or defense?

And wouldn’t there be a receptionist of sorts to monitor said logs? Especially at such a fine, tax funded establishment as the White House?

Keep up the hearing and investigations. Soon there will be so many small fires blazing the White House will trip over itself with the size, number and enormity of their flat out silly lies!


36 posted on 06/01/2013 9:13:20 AM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Resident FReeper Kitty Poem /Haiku Guy)
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To: rktman

Right. There I’d NO RECORD of who attended meetings at the White Hut.


37 posted on 06/01/2013 9:13:32 AM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Travis McGee

Shulman


38 posted on 06/01/2013 9:14:29 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: All

the defense for corruption and violation of federal statutes is “we’re just too effing dumb to keep accurate records”..


39 posted on 06/01/2013 9:14:42 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: smoothsailing

3rd world executive branch bump for later....


40 posted on 06/01/2013 9:16:42 AM PDT by indthkr
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