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Poll to FREEP, NTSB Board for states to lower blood alcohol limit from .08 to .05
State Journal Register ^ | May 15, 2013 | Steelers6

Posted on 05/15/2013 8:38:01 AM PDT by Steelers6

One recent recommendation by the National Transportation Safety Board was to reduce states’ drunken-driving threshold from .08 to .05 blood alcohol content. What do you think?

That’s way too strict. 42%

Sounds good to me. 35%

The standard should be zero. 21%


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: control; drinking; limit; ntsb; states; tooltocontrol; tyranny
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Way to Strict
1 posted on 05/15/2013 8:38:02 AM PDT by Steelers6
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To: Steelers6

This has nothing to do with lowering DUI deaths. This has everything to do with raising revenues and making more people criminals.


2 posted on 05/15/2013 8:42:33 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Steelers6

The term “Way” is a bit over the top.

They also split the vote with “Zero” and “Fine with me”

Done.


3 posted on 05/15/2013 8:42:35 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 ("The British are Coming (to confiscate weapons)" - Paul Revere (We know how that ended))
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To: Steelers6
Have to disagree with you on that one.

Used to have a job which involved (in part) reviewing photos of major traffic collisions. Also had a chance to work with one of the most recognized BA experts in SoCal.

It doesn't take very much booze before people are too impaired to drive properly.

Only exception is hard core alkies who have built up tolerance — but they usually are the ones with exceptionally high BA levels when they kill someone.

4 posted on 05/15/2013 8:42:37 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Steelers6

Here’s something that I’ve wondered about for a very long time...

Have any studies been done regarding the number of accidents caused by impaired drivers, corelated to the BAC?

When I mean is how many accidents are caused by people with a BAC of say, 0.2 vs 0.15 vs 0.1 vs 0.08...

The simple question I have is how will effectively legislating a “zero tolerance” BAC make any difference for someone who gets rip-roaring drunk and gets into an accident?

However, by instituting a zero tolerance BAC, what will this do to the restuarant/bar industry? How many people in the hospitality industries would lose their jobs and how many businesses might have to close down?

Mark


5 posted on 05/15/2013 8:45:29 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: BenLurkin

“but they usually are the ones with exceptionally high BA levels when they kill someone”

And usually walked away with just a scratch.


6 posted on 05/15/2013 8:46:55 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Steelers6

I read some stats on this and it seems that the MADDs and others
consider it a “death averted” every time a DUI arrest is made.

Which is a steaming load of crap.


7 posted on 05/15/2013 8:48:46 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Steelers6

Can they show us any evidence lowering from .10 to .08 has made any difference?


8 posted on 05/15/2013 8:49:19 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: mountn man

More people are drinking because of the core problems of the country starting with the massive Obama failure, and thus now the vultures circling are growing in numbers and need more road kill, so they drop the BAC level, get billions more in revenues.

especially they need more money to buy more ammo that is more limited and expensive.

Its like a tower of legos.


9 posted on 05/15/2013 8:49:27 AM PDT by Spartan302 (Spartans never quit, they come back later with more warriors.)
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To: MarkL
If you have an accident...if you have ANY alcohol in your system, it will be blamed on the alcohol....not the fight you were having with your wife....or a sneeze...or the other guy...

How many times does the wrong guy get the bad mark??

10 posted on 05/15/2013 8:49:59 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: humblegunner
I read some stats on this and it seems that the MADDs and others consider it a “death averted” every time a DUI arrest is made.

They also use the "alcohol related" statistic to skew the evidence too. Drunk passenger and sober driver = alcohol related.

11 posted on 05/15/2013 8:52:10 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: mountn man

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!

Follow the money.

Lawyers cash in, law enforcement cashes in, courts cash in. Lawyers give money to the democrats who push laws like this.

Everyone on the left wins!

(the guy going to jail over 1 beer.. well.. not so much)


12 posted on 05/15/2013 8:52:22 AM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: mountn man
Revenue...You mean like the traffic cameras??

Our City just admitted they can't even monitor what they have. Huge money maker. Stops accidents?? Ridiculous...these are all in 30 MPH zones...and that's a max cuz there is a light every 800 feet.

13 posted on 05/15/2013 8:52:57 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: mountn man
This has nothing to do with lowering DUI deaths. This has everything to do with raising revenues and making more people criminals.

Boy am I gonna step in it...

Years ago a retired Officer of the Law ( Captain if my memory is corect) wrote Car and Driver ( aka when Brock Yates was in charge) and said this all gained traction when the Feds offered matching funds and that esentially it was a power grab and to build departments etc. Yates had the cohones to print it.

Since then I have talked to Bar - Resturant owner that told me I can survive Obamacare, but I can't survive .06 and MADD, and it will drive people to private parties and to do even stupider things....

It is too un PC to talk about this and I just did, i.e. their are other ways to think about this subject matter and other opinions...

14 posted on 05/15/2013 8:53:11 AM PDT by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Steelers6

The lower the legal limit the more limited freedom becomes.


15 posted on 05/15/2013 8:54:30 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: BenLurkin

Nonsense. Insurance studies have shown beyond any doubt that enforcement of BAC levels below 0.12% have no measurable impact in fatal or serious injury traffic accidents.


16 posted on 05/15/2013 8:54:50 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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To: Sacajaweau

If you are drinking and driving you are the bad guy regardless. Stay home or get a ride.


17 posted on 05/15/2013 8:55:11 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Steelers6

Automate Driving

I say we accelerate the google self driving car and make it the norm.

Imagine a world where...


18 posted on 05/15/2013 8:56:09 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Steelers6
Sounds good to me. 35%

I agree with this. I think a 35% BA should be just about right.

19 posted on 05/15/2013 8:59:01 AM PDT by super7man
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To: MarkL
Yes, the insurance industry.

Study after study after study has shown that drivers with low amounts of alcohol (<0.12%) are no more likely to get in a traffic accident than drivers with NO alcohol in their system.

20 posted on 05/15/2013 8:59:47 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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