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Low Magnesium Linked To Heart Disease [magnesium overlooked as the MAIN FACTOR in heart disease]
Medical News Today ^ | Kelly Fitzgerald

Posted on 04/06/2013 8:39:15 AM PDT by Bulwinkle

Low magnesium levels have been found to be the best predictor of heart disease, contrary to the traditional belief that cholesterol or saturated fat play the biggest roles....

(Excerpt) Read more at medicalnewstoday.com ...


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KEYWORDS: disease; heart; heartdisease; magnesium; medicine; mg
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To: Bulwinkle
Best to take it with Calcium, and best to use capsules over tablets.

In order by price, roughly:

  1. Magnesium Sulfate (Epsom Salt)-- serious laxative, can be used externally as a soak, ridiculously cheap
  2. Magnesium Oxide -- serious laxative, poor absorption (4%), pro-oxidant, cheap
  3. Magnesium Citrate -- serious laxative, cheap (half the price anything below)
  4. Magnesium Oratate -- being neutrally charged, it passes easily through cell membranes; not commonly available in capsules
  5. Magnesium Aspartate -- possible neurotoxin
  6. Magnesium Glycinate -- good price; non-laxative; contains glycine, a neurotransmitter that improves sleep
  7. Magnesium Fumerate -- good price; non-laxative; contains fumaric acid, which is brain protective
  8. Magnesium Malate -- good price; non-laxative; contains malic acid, which chelates aluminum from the body
  9. Magnesium Chloride -- expensive, not commonly available in capsules
  10. Magnesium Taurate -- expensive, contains taurine, which is good for the heart
  11. Magnesium 2-AEP -- expensive
  12. Magnesium Threonate -- very expensive, goes through the blood-brain barrier,
  13. Magnesium butyrate -- very expensive
  14. Magnesium caprylate -- very expensive

41 posted on 04/06/2013 11:03:43 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: Bulwinkle

I guess my main question is if one’s blood levels meet the standards, is this enough? My diet is bad due to the traveling requirements of my job, so I take a standard dosed supplement. Not sure if that is sufficient.

While I do try to get it from foods, that doesn’t always happen.


42 posted on 04/06/2013 11:10:09 AM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: traderrob6
Be sure and take Magnesium Citrate as the other magnesium supplements are VERY poorly absorbed.

I thought I'd read somewhere that Magnesium MALATE was better absorbed than the Citrate.

43 posted on 04/06/2013 11:25:34 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: P.O.E.

Thanks. One website said to dissolve it and spray on the tomato, pepper or rose bush as it absorbs immediately. Who know if that’s true. I like your way.


44 posted on 04/06/2013 11:26:37 AM PDT by bunster
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To: SuziQ

Perhaps slightly better but the differences in my opinion are miniscule. Considering that the Citrate tends to be a bit more readily avaiable and cheaper, it’s my supplement of choice.

The main point I was attempting to make was to stay away from the usual form of Magnesium supp being sold, Magnesium oxide. It’s pretty worthless compared to magnesium taurate, magnesium glycinate, magnesium citrate, magnesium malate and magnesium oratate.


45 posted on 04/06/2013 11:34:40 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Bulwinkle

So what food are rich in magnesium? Nuts? Are all nuts equally rich in magnesium?


46 posted on 04/06/2013 11:48:50 AM PDT by what's up
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To: rockabyebaby

It’s also a good safe soak to use for embedded splinters or minor infections.


47 posted on 04/06/2013 12:13:25 PM PDT by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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To: neverdem

Ping.


48 posted on 04/06/2013 12:20:23 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: Bulwinkle

Importantly, not too long ago a young man managed to kill himself with a magnesium overdose. It wasn’t easy.

Typically, Epsom salts, citrate of magnesia, and milk of magnesia are used as laxatives, because the magnesium is poorly absorbed, and actually draws water into the intestines before elimination.

However, this young man did not swallow Epsom salt water, he gargled with it. He suffered from halitosis, bad breath, and thought that by regularly gargling with Epsom salts, it would keep his breath fresh.

So he did so for over a month. But this was the one way he could consistently absorb a maximum dose of magnesium while minimizing elimination.

One day he developed painful, severe all-over body muscle cramps, and he was dead within 48 hours.

The bottom line is that the body’s minerals: calcium, sodium, potassium, magnesium, chloride, zinc, iron, copper, manganese, chromium, molybdenum and selenium; are all important to health, but exist in a delicate balance.

Fortunately, the body is pretty good about maintaining that balance over time, but some diseases, poisons, and imbalances can be so great that it overwhelms us.


49 posted on 04/06/2013 12:41:00 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: traderrob6

This information on magnesium has been known for over 30 years. When I get PVCs (heart flutters), I take magnesium to stop them. Artificial D3 in milk products inhibits the absorption of magnesium.


50 posted on 04/06/2013 12:49:48 PM PDT by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: Mygirlsmom

Magnesium ascorbate....this way you get magnesium and vitamin C. I take some every day. Just take a half teaspoon 2x per day or more. Tastes good. You can take calcium ascorbate too but not as much

http://www.amazon.com/Now-Foods-Magnesium-Ascorbate-8-Ounce/dp/B000I4ANP0


51 posted on 04/06/2013 12:59:06 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: Bulwinkle

I can’t tolerate the traditional magnesium oxide supplement; have much better luck with the newer citrate formulations and also magnesium chloride (as in Slo-Mag®).


52 posted on 04/06/2013 1:03:00 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

How about Magnesium ascorbate? Plus you missed magnesium glycinate which you can get a good deal on at Swanson’s. Chelated in the best way and won’t give you the runs

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-ultra-albion-chelated-magnesium-glycinate-133-mg-180-caps


53 posted on 04/06/2013 1:06:49 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

...you got glycinate!


54 posted on 04/06/2013 1:08:41 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: Bulwinkle

I’ve had this bookmarked for a few years:

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Heart-Rhythm/Magnesium-supplements——to-avoid-—how-to-take-it-and—safety/show/1002415


55 posted on 04/06/2013 1:10:28 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: aimhigh

I had surgery for Heart flutters back in December. Heart flutters is usually called atrial fibrillation.

That procedure completely knocked out the atrial fibrillation.

Basically the procedure identifies the neurons in the heart that are beating out of sequence and cauterizes them. You have maybe 100,000 neurons in the heart. The procedure identifies the 10-20 neurons that are firing out of sequence and stops them from firing. There are two procedures for this. the first is more common and has been done for about 8 years. It uses radio waves to do the ablation (that is the cauterizing of the misfiring neurons.) The success rate on the first try for radio wave ablation is roughly 50%. The second is called cryogenic ablation. It uses deep cold to stop the misfiring neurons. This procedure is only about 3 years old but the success rate of this second procedure is 70%.

The second one, cryogenic ablation is the one I did.

You’ll want to have an insurance policy to do the procedure. I had a high deductible so my out of pocket was about 6k. But the total cost without insurance would have come to roughly 50k. Make sure the outfit doing the procedure is in your insurance groups NETWORK. This is really key. If the provider is outside your insurance network you’ll get stuck with most of the bill.

You’ll also want to find the best surgeon for the procedure in your area. The ones that are the best are the ones that are doing the procedure 1-2 times@ week.

The devices for cryogenic ablation are provided by Medtronic. You can call Medtronic and ask them who they have provided the devices to in your area. You can also go on google and plug in cryogenic ablation for atrial fibrillation. And then from there go to look for surgeons in your area.

I tried a bunch of different stuff including Magnesium to stop my affib last year. None of it worked. The Affib only got worse.

Now I don’t have to worry about it at all. I’m back to doing very vigorous physical activity. I don’t have any symptoms like being short of breath or faintness. I feel like I’m back in my 40’s or there about.


56 posted on 04/06/2013 1:16:29 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Bulwinkle

http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/foods-high-in-magnesium.php


57 posted on 04/06/2013 1:17:49 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: dennisw

Oh yeah! I forgot ascorbate, and I forgot about Swansons too. Thanks!


58 posted on 04/06/2013 1:29:14 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant
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To: aimhigh

I didn’t know that about D3.

I take 5000IU of Colicaciferol D3 daily. You think that could be causing a magnesium absorption issue?


59 posted on 04/06/2013 1:32:53 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Ever try Ester-C? The Magnesium ascorbate in is what makes it taste good and feel good. You can get a good deal on the Now Foods brand Magnesium ascorbate powder via Amazon or Swanson’s


60 posted on 04/06/2013 1:45:35 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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