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1 posted on 03/25/2013 7:05:17 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Excellent article.


2 posted on 03/25/2013 7:12:09 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (The amount of ammo you need is determined after the gunfight.)
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To: neverdem

They don’t mention Natural Law Theory which is the basis of our Legal system. Natural Rights come from Natural Law. Natural Rights/civil rights come from Natural Law Theory.

To recognize anal sex as a “Good”, as something “Natural”, is teaching lies and throwing out Natural Laws and God’s Laws and Reason.

No law can exist which is not “Reasoned” and be Constitutional in the US. That is why we have “Rule of Law” which MEANS there is a Higher Law (God’s) than arbitrary laws. Reason only exists in relation to Natural Law. Without the concepts of Natural Moral Law there is no Right and Wrong. It is unjust law and unconstitutional if there is no reason-—like with recognition of sodomizing others as a “Right” from God, which is absurd.

Also-—if biological parents aren’t required by law to raise their own biological children-—then we have a system which reduces children to commodities which is intrinsically evil by both Natural Law and God’s Law.

The family (genetics) is the foundation of a civil society-—destroy the family by making children into objects to be bred and sold is evil and Orwellian.

Marxism-—this “radical egalitarianism” which makes women and men interchangeable, is a provable, scientific Lie-—like all Marxist ideology. It is antithetical to a Constitution built on the “laws of nature and nature’s God”.


3 posted on 03/25/2013 7:24:13 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: neverdem

1) Marriage should be a decision for the States. I do agree that these decisions need to be determined by the State Legislature.

2) The Supreme Court should not have any decision in the decisions of the States.

3) Therefore, all decision of these States are to be held supreme and not challenged by the Federal Government.

Is there NOT any decision made by the States that can be overturned by the Supreme Court these days? These days of changing attitudes seems to say YES, they can do whatever they want and adjust the Constitution as necessary.

Let us pray...or heaven help us - whatever helps these days.


4 posted on 03/25/2013 7:26:43 PM PDT by Deagle (quo)
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To: neverdem
In recent years marriage has been weakened by a revisionist view that is more about adults’ desires than children’s needs.

Redefining marriage is a direct and demonstrated threat to religious freedom that marginalizes those who affirm marriage as the union of a man and a woman. We have already seen this in neighboring Canada and right here in places such as Massachusetts and Washington, D.C.

The points I would like to emphasize.

14 posted on 03/25/2013 7:43:32 PM PDT by RatRipper (Self-centeredness, greed, envy, deceit and lawless corruption has killed this once great nation.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

P4L


17 posted on 03/25/2013 7:47:13 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: neverdem

Good post.

The problem with Same Sex Marriage is it is it furthers the deconstruction of the family pushed by radical leftists/feminists. I know most young “conservatives” are often too lazy to even research what the goals of the radical left and radical homosexuals have been for the past several decades but their number one target has been the “patriarchy” as they call it. Also the norming of homosexuality makes it easy to extend the damage done with the advent of no fault sex (ie birth control) coupled with the rise of massive government services. They no very well that the ultimate intention is to make sexual orientation increasingly ambiguous and gender increasingly androgynous which is why we’ve seen the rise of the gender neutral classroom and the re-defining of maleness in the traditional sense as a disease (ADHD). Once gay marriage is achieved it will increasingly become a requirement that homosexuality as well as other forms of sexual orientations not just be taught but encouraged. Kids will be told that they should explore and experiment to find out what their “true” orientation is and that their fulfillment of that “true” orientation is essential to their mental health. If you don’t believe me research some of the crap that is being implemented in Blue states and even within some red states. Anyone who thinks that gay marriage is just about equal rights is in denial just as one who believes that homosexuality is primarily inborn.
Thomas Sowell put it best “Gay Marriage is the product of Sloppy Thinking”.

Here is the article if you desire to read it.

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell032400.asp

The unfortunate thing is that this “sloppy thinking” has infected conservatism or rather mostly Progressive Republicanism masquerading as conservatism. The reason it has made it so far is through intimidation and silence of those who disagree but have been made to feel they have no right to express it.


19 posted on 03/25/2013 8:18:22 PM PDT by Maelstorm (This country wasn't founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a govt check!")
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To: neverdem

bttt


25 posted on 03/25/2013 9:26:57 PM PDT by Techster
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To: neverdem
There’s no way of knowing what combination of these singular features of marriage confers which of its demonstrated advantages, culturally and psychologically.

Six thousand years or more recorded history have taught us nothing? Right, got it.

27 posted on 03/25/2013 11:23:54 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: neverdem
Marriage predates government. It is the fundamental building block of all human civilization. All Americans, especially conservatives, should respect this crucial institution of civil society. This is why 41 states, with good reason, affirm that marriage is between a man and a woman.

I would say that marriage is built into the human psychology, much like the bond of a woman for her infant (another human trait that the left has been relentlessly attacking). This reduction of human biological imperatives into self-indulgencies has not had a good effect. Trying to make marriage into something it isn't, that is not hard-wired into our brains, is a bad idea.

28 posted on 03/26/2013 4:52:40 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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30 posted on 03/26/2013 9:22:15 AM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
[Art.] If nothing else, these [modesty, etc.] should be sufficient to stay the judges’ hand, and to let the people themselves decide, if a decision must be made, when or whether tradition is to be disowned.

The problem with this suggesting is that the strategic attack platform is Article IV of the Constitution, the Full Faith and Credit Clause.

In a 1981 interview, Lambda Legal lead trial attorney Evan Wolfson laid out the strategy: By hook or by crook, get "gay marriage" </ off oxymoron > legalized or decreed in one, just one, State, and then sue all 49 of the remaining States with their 97% heterosexual Peoples into submission in the Supreme Court using Article IV as the battering ram.

An amendment to the Constitution will (would) be necessary to forefend this outcome and defend the rights of the People and the dignity and legitimacy of representative democracy and self-government.

That need was foreclosed by President George W. Bush's refusal to take DOMA to the stage of constitutional amendment. When he endorsed DOMA, he and his RiNO allies were actually playing to throw the game, the same thing they did in their Heller brief on the Second Amendment, which they strewed with back doors to future regulation and future effective bans on ownership and/or use.

31 posted on 03/26/2013 1:30:18 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: neverdem
Acceptance and promotion of homosexuality and homosexual "marriage" means the end of the free exercise of religion, period.

This is already ABUNDANTLY CLEAR in places like Massachusetts.

36 posted on 03/26/2013 9:02:58 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (because the real world is not digital...)
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To: neverdem
Marriage exists to bring a man and a woman together as husband and wife to be father and mother to any children their union produces. It is based on the anthropological truth that men and women are different and complementary, on the biological fact that reproduction depends on a man and a woman, and on the social reality that children need a mother and a father. Marriage has public purposes that transcend its private purposes.

True, and too many have ignored it's importance for too many years. That's the only reason the idea of 'homosexual marriage' has even been able to take hold.

38 posted on 03/27/2013 7:00:10 PM PDT by SuziQ
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