Posted on 03/10/2013 8:32:44 PM PDT by Colofornian
STATE COLLEGE — Penn State trustee Paul Suhey admits relieving Joe Paterno of his head coaching duties in November 2011 over a late-night phone call was not the right tact.
Stephanie Deviney, another trustee, is certain the whole board feels that way.
“We apologize, we screwed it up as far as how we delivered the message,” Suhey said Friday in an interview. “Our decision, we’re not going to go back on. But we messed that up big time.
“People are still so hurt by that, and you know, damn it, we screwed it up.”
The Paterno decision will go down in the annals as the trigger of when Penn State alumni and diehard fans turned against the board, and the anger has not relented. They email the trustees, write letters — even call them out in advertisements in this newspaper.
But, four trustees, in an interview with the Centre Daily Times’ editorial board, said they are committed to turning the corner, opening up and building on the progress the university has already seen in responding in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky abuse scandal. The trustees — Suhey, Deviney, board Chairman Keith Masser and Paul Silvis — said they hope the university community will meet them in the middle as part of moving forward.
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The trustees say they did not fire Paterno, thought they stood behind it as the right decision given the details of the presentment.
“We retired him three weeks early,” Suhey said...
(Excerpt) Read more at centredaily.com ...
So...if you put in your three-week notice that you're leaving a job...and your boss doesn't like that you're leaving and fires you right away...that's just a "reduction in force three weeks early"????
Certainly the Penn State Board of Trustees deserved all the crits they got for the "tact" of firing Paterno by phone...That's open disregard of simple courtesy toward ANY given employee!!!
But I don't know which is worse:
...the Penn State Alumni sanctioning Paterno's cover-up,
...or Penn State trustees continuing to (a) pay the salary of one its "cover-up" employees (AD Tim Curley); while (b) ALSO now fudging on the need to have fired Paterno right away!!!
All I can say is, "Hey, they all deserve each other in State College!"
Gay Valley was being administrated by a renowned Wife Swapping Studies scholar at the time.
Do you know anything at all about this topic?
That was a rhetorical question, by the way. You don’t know an f’ing thing.
That’s all they are sorry about? Sheesh! They are lucky they have any athletic program at all.
The entire notion of "sanctioning Paterno's cover-up" is completely specious. Paterno was told something, and he reported it up the change of command. He didn't witness anything. And he was not silent. He didn't cover anything up.
There was a thread earlier today about a prank in an elevator -- the doors would slide open, and inside would be one person strangling another person. Most witnesses just stood there and allowed to doors to close, while they declined to get on board. Not a good reaction, but a rather human reaction. Paterno didn't react that way. He heard a report and he passed that report on to his superiors.
And some folks hate him for that and treat him with more scorn than they treat the actual child molester. I'll just never understand it.
Careful - the apologists will be out in force soon enough.
You will never convince the lynch mob that they're wrong and it's pointless to try. The fact that there is not one legal finding that Paterno was involved in a cover-up is completely irrelevant to these haters.
The fact they they are sliming someone on the basis of hysterical ravings by commentators at ESPN (probably the biggest hypocrites on the planet) or a "report" that consists of nothing more than 40 pages of regurgitated grand jury testimony, a handful of (already known) emails and 200+ pages of pure opinion written by a despicable shill who was hired for the sole purpose of justifying bad decisions made by the Board of Trustees without any examination of what the testimony says, what the PA AG said, what the Grand Jury found, or what the emails actually says, tells you everything you need to know about these disgusting people.
I am ashamed they call themselves FReepers.
They are ignoramuses who have no desire to listen to any facts at all; they just want to light up the torches and have themselves a good little 'ol necktie party.
In heaven, we'll know the truth, and those who slander innocent people caught up in Jerry Sandusky's crimes without any justification ... won't be there.
He’ll be fine; the jackass lynch mob is already here to defend him.
Let me get this straight:
You're one of the head Boy Scout leaders on an outing.
A reliable adult on the trip reports seeing a former Scout leader raping a kid in the shower.
Of course, you do the "Paterno" thing.
You report it to "your supervising" Scout leader above you a rank.
You wait a month.
A year.
Two years.
You've either never heard anything more...about the victim...or the alleged perp...or you don't query around to see what's happened -- just to ensure that the authorities were, after all, notified.
Then...about three years after the "incident," the eyewitness applies for a job @ your place of business.
You either delegate the hiring process (or participate yourself). Either way, you talk to this "eyewitness" before hiring him. You what? You don't at least ask him -- yes or no -- "Have the authorities ever come talk to you about that minor kid rape victim?" ???
If you DO ask the interviewee for the job that Q, and finds out, "No." What? You don't start backtracking w/your fellow Boy Scout leaders to find out what happened to that report? If you DON'T ask the interviewee for the job that Q, or after he's hired and works closely with you, you don't ask that Q for year after year after year after year after year after year ... until FINALLY, you hear thru the grapevine that the authorities are indeed on the trail of the alleged perp...???? Really?
FACT: The eyewitness -- McQueary -- got hired 3 years AFTER reporting what he did to Paterno...and then got a promo to head of recruiting several years after that...
Paterno had the influence to ANY time during that time find out from McQueary if the authorities had followed up with him. If he did talk with McQueary about it, then Paterno ALSO became part of the cover-up.
If he didn't talk with McQueary about it, then it looks like (a) Paterno not only exhibited ZERO "care" about the alleged victim, but (b) it also gives the impression that Paterno hired/promoted McQueary to silence his eyewitness knowledge & protect the program.
Paterno around the time of his firing issued a statement of regret in saying he wish he had done more.
That was his mea culpa, even if it ne'er went far enough.
Paterno already went on record saying he wished he had done more.
He himself already implicated himself.
I only hope some of the big-mouths around here some day have somebody point at them and mistakenly allege that they are homosexual pedophiles, since they think pointing at a man and making that accusation is an easy, happy-go-lucky thing to do.
The fact is, the assistant coach Mike McQueary never told Paterno that he witnessed an actual rape. But the old man was creeped out enough by the possibility that his former assistant coach may have done something very "inapproriate" that he did indeed send the matter up the chain of command to people who were supposed to look into it further. Those people, we now know, failed to do so.
It's scary, all the big-mouth nobodies around here who love to crucify Paterno because they apparently think it's no big deal to point at a man and accuse him of being a homosexual pedophile. They never consider the ramifications of a mistake. (Obviously, Sandusky actually did turn out to be a homosexual pedophile, we now know.) But imagine if such a brutal accusation against a man turned out to be totally false, the result of a complete misunderstanding, or even wanton malice? What would the accuser say then? "Oops. Sorry about that, heh heh."? Yeah... "Which door do I go through to get my reputation back?"
As far as I'm concerned, you don't make that kind of accusation against somebody unless you see it with your own two eyeballs. Paterno did not. McQueary (apparently) did, although even that is by no means clear. Sandusky, in fact, was acquitted of charges involving the boy McQeary allegedly saw in the shower with Sandusky. (Anyway, I still don't get how McQueary, who was at that time in 2002 a 28-year-old employee of the university, has skated on this whole thing so far? No no... It's all Paterno's fault.)
All those years went by with Sandusky on the loose and not one victim (or victim's guardians) ever came forward (aside from the woman in 1998 whose son came home with a wet head)?? How is that even possible? Like Paterno said, Sandusky had everybody fooled. Homosexual pedophiles are sneaky that way. I don't know how the cops investigate accusations of child molestation, but I suspect they do it very quietly and carefully. (And yes, we know the cops were tipped off about Sandusky back in 1998.) After that, actual victims coming forward would certainly have propelled the investigation.
Anyway, Sandusky didn't get away with decades of homosexual pedophile rape because Joe Paterno and a couple of other university officials looked the other way - - Sandusky got away with homosexual pedophile rape for decades because at least a hundred people, including his family and friends, his Second Mile associates, university donors and benefactors, and reporters looked the other way. Apparently, the cops, too.
But no - - small little people have more fun laying everything at the feet of Joe Paterno. The Penn State Board, acting out of politically correct cowardice, joined the disgraceful lynch mob. They should all be fired.
FRegards,
LH
May God bless you and yours!
That's a sickening "Jopologist" try...
Have you read page 7 of the Grand Jury Presentment???
It's sickening the way you reduce
How can you die-hard euphemistic Penn State apologists even sleep at night? Truly pathetic.
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Paterno even knew by 1998:
rom: Freeh Report: Joe Paterno Knew In 1998
In his testimony before the grand jury investigating Jerry Sandusky, Joe Paterno denied knowing anything about the 1998 incident in which Sandusky was investigated but never charged after police received a report from a woman who claimed Sandusky had showered with her son and touched the boy. And in his interview with Sally Jenkins of the Washington Post shortly before his death, Paterno said, "Nobody knew about it" when asked directly about his knowledge of the 1998 case. The '98 incident, you'll recall, would have happened when Sandusky was still employed as the defensive coordinator on Paterno's staff. But the Freeh Report released this morning makes it plain as day that Paterno and other top Penn State officials were well aware of the investigation and that they had numerous discussions about it right up until the district attorney decided not to press charges. This is from a transcript of Paterno's grand jury testimony...
(suggest you read post #15)
STill trying to justify the third most beloved coach in Penn State history raping little boys?
LMBO!!
You believe the shoddy, self-serving Freeh report?
You’re pathetic.
The real crook here is Gov. Corbett who as Attorney General conducted the investigation into the problem and as Trustee acted as judge and jury firing Paterno. The guy is scum. Let him go back to his job as in house legal counsel for Waste Management, the job he held prior to being Attorney General.
Notice what the trustees said... We regret the way we did it.... NOT what we did.
I never liked Paterno as a coach. As a Penn State professor, I can say that I respected his personal integrity to do the right thing, even when it had the potential to harm his chances to win a football game.
Lancey Howard, Thank You for your accurate detailed explanation of the whole series of events. I strongly agree with you.
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