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1 posted on 03/08/2013 6:07:45 PM PST by cradle of freedom
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Most rational people understand that it is self evident.

The homo-lobby is the only ones saying anything to the contrary....and it isn’t even coherent.


2 posted on 03/08/2013 6:13:29 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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You’re 100% right.


3 posted on 03/08/2013 6:19:53 PM PST by Viennacon
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1082190/posts

Cheers!


5 posted on 03/08/2013 6:30:41 PM PST by DoctorBulldog (Obama sucks. End of story.)
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Unfortunately, we no longer live in a rational culture.


6 posted on 03/08/2013 6:34:46 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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How hard have you searched for it?

https://www.google.com/search?q=marriage+and+natural+law&aq=f&oq=marriage+and+natural+law&aqs=chrome.0.57j0j62l3.4523&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


8 posted on 03/08/2013 6:41:22 PM PST by Valpal1
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The whole structure of human society is built on the foundation of male/female marriage.

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Exactly. And that is why it is imperative for our country to promote and protect marriages from a socially productive POV.

It sickens me to see so many liberal FReepers who applaud queer marriages, support overturning DOMA, and argue the government should stay out of the marriage business.

They want the government out of marriage? Well, guess what? They are getting their wish as LBJ’s Great Sociey program has replaced the father with a welfare check and has attacked the social values of marriage to such an extent that wide-spread welfare - and not healthy productive familes - are now the norm.


9 posted on 03/08/2013 6:41:42 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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Right. Man & Woman were created by God and joined together. Anything else is unnatural. - These homosexuals have joined in with the heterosexuals in that they change “partners” at the drop of a hat. - I care not WHAT Barack Hussein Obama has EVOLVED on in his ever changing campaign mode. It ain’t natural; they know it is not natural, and they can’t force anyone to bow to it. Not they; not Obama.

He seems to fancy himself as some wise sage bestowing “civil rights” on the stupid masses.


10 posted on 03/08/2013 6:55:50 PM PST by Twinkie (JOHN 3:16)
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The fact that they have to reject and redefine the natural, normal definitions of words before even setting forth their perverse arguments reveals that their entire worldview is a lie.

The same malevolent spirits who believe marriage has no natural meaning and order are the same reality-denying entities that believe sex (that natural state of being either male or female) is something that can be changed and rearranged at will.

This is "man as his own god" drawn out to its hideous, debased, destructive, and completely absurd end.

There is a growing segment of the population that will double down on lies to maintain the delusions, and they will do whatever it takes to silence the objectors.

11 posted on 03/08/2013 6:56:15 PM PST by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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The deranged ‘progressive’ agenda is about persecuting subscribers of tradition and Christians.


13 posted on 03/08/2013 7:02:12 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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Polygamy works fine for producing children, so I don't see that Natural Law prevents it. It is our religion that prevents it. Liberals don't agree that we have a religion, as a civilization, or that any religion should have any impact on our laws.

The concept of "Natural Law" is not widely used or understood these days, either.

17 posted on 03/08/2013 7:16:52 PM PST by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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Liberals don’t believe in natural law, they believe in government.


19 posted on 03/08/2013 7:26:32 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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Yup. ISNT Natural. Parts dont fit.


26 posted on 03/08/2013 7:46:29 PM PST by amihow
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J. Budziszewski says, "We are passing through and eerie phase of history in which the things that everyone really knows are treated as unheard-of doctrines, a time in which the elements of common decencyare themselves attacked as indecent. Although our civilization has passed through quite a few troughs of immorality, never before has vice held the moral highground. Our time considers it dirty-minded to treat sexual purity as virtue; unfeeling to insist too firmly that the sick should not be encouraged to seek death; a sign of impious pride to profess humble faith in God. The Moral Law has becme the very emblem of immorality. We call affirming it "being judgemental", which is our way of saying that it has been judged and will not be tolerated".

There is an inherent complementarity between an man and a woman. We do not speak of a man and a woman commisurating to perform respiration, one with lungs and one with a diaphragm. We do not speak of a man and a woman coming together as one flesh to provide, one a heart and the other vessels to carry the blood being pumped. But, there is one circumstance which does require such a union, with its regenerative powers. The union of opposites is the only possible realization of their procreative potential. If they do not come together, procreation will not occur.

There is a complimentarity of wife and husband which does not end in biology. Nurture of child, protection of wife and family, emotional differences, intellectual differences. The family is based on enduring conjugal partnership, a feat not possible in a homosexual relationship. Many pro-homosexual advocates will even profess that the optimum circumstance for nurturing a child is a father and mother. This is the ideal, the normative or how it was designed. Natural Law remains though many have suppressed the truth of Natural Law to profess the lie.

29 posted on 03/08/2013 8:40:07 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (THA)
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In these times "natural law" is irrelevant. "Advances" in "medicine" have made it obsolete.

The Catholic Church warned against opening this Pandora's Box in the 60s and 70s. It lost that battle.

30 posted on 03/08/2013 8:45:48 PM PST by newzjunkey (bah)
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The Left hates natural law. Natural Law is the basis of our Constitution. Marxism rejects Natural Law because there is no such thing as a universal right or wrong. There is only pragmatism. The ends justifies the means.

That Zer0 defies Natural Law by promoting homo marriage, he is violating the Constitution by declaring that the Defense of Marriage Act, as applied to legally married same-sex couples, is unconstitutional. This is a rejection of Natural Law and the Constitution that governs it. This rejection sets the stage for impeachment.

Marxists want the family unit smashed so the state could adopt the role of arranging procreation and the raising of children into the tenets of leftism. It is also a strategy for destroying the Church which is the last bastion against government control of the individual.

You see, my friends, homo marriage has deeper implications than you can imagine. It is designed to control the individual by separating him from the sovereignty of the family.

33 posted on 03/08/2013 10:19:50 PM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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The Catholic Church does all the time, but idiots don’t realize that Natural Law originated with the Greeks. They think it is “religious” and Catholicism.

Natural Laws are basically Common Sense. Cause and Effect/Laws of physics, biology, human design and needs, etc. and it is embedded into Catholic Theology by St. Thomas, but it is also embedded into the Founding Documents. Civil Rights—Rights from the Creator—all come from Natural Law Theory.

Our Laws are supposed to be “Reasoned” but Marxism/Darwinism don’t believe in “Fixed” laws of Nature, so they can never use Reason and Logic. It is why Ayn Rand referred to them as being “irrational” (among worse things).

Homosexuals can’t use “Reason” and Natural Laws-—that is why they change the meaning of the words and always twist truth-—to make people “feel” “evil is good”.


39 posted on 03/09/2013 12:25:28 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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You’re kidding, right?

“Natural Law” is a concept akin to “life begins at conception.” They both fundamentally undermine the legitimacy of practices wicked people want approved.

You may as well quote “thou shalt not steal” to a mugger.

It’s not that no one is saying it; it’s that no one who agrees has an influential job in the mainstream media.


42 posted on 03/09/2013 1:30:32 AM PST by papertyger
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After reading through all the posts it appears NO ONE has said it... so I will.

"man/woman marriage comes from natural law."

44 posted on 03/09/2013 1:41:31 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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Yes, the union between man and woman is representative of our relationship with God or a Natural Law. However, speaking in regards to the ungodly who have come to worship themselves and science, even evolutionary theory should be used against homosexuality. It makes no sense either way.


45 posted on 03/09/2013 2:49:37 AM PST by huldah1776
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What in the world is “Natural Law”.


49 posted on 03/09/2013 8:28:15 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Low Bible information Christians vote Democrat.)
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