[Ouderkirk]

Most rational people understand that it is self evident.

The homo-lobby is the only ones saying anything to the contrary....and it isn’t even coherent.

[cradle of freedom]

I really hope that someone in politics or the law will actually use the term “natural law” when speaking of marriage. Since our laws and Constitution are based on natural law it would give traditional marriage greater standing in the same sex marriage debates. In today’s media propaganda flooded culture, the side with the most media access wins. In America today words such as discrimination are much more powerful than tradition, morality, Biblical. People are so dumbed down intellectually and morally that the traditional, moral or Biblical arguments just don’t have the power that they once had.

[cradle of freedom]

But they are winning. They have had 30 years of mind control propaganda to shape the thinking of millions of people. People under 40 do not know what it was like before the gay propaganda onslaught. This is the age group that grew up with pro-gay messages in many of the programs that they watched, especially sitcoms which are very popular with kids and young adults.

We have to find the right arguments otherwise the homosexual agenda will be seen as the wave of the future. They are gaining the momentum. See how some Republicans are getting antsy to join the pro-gay team? You don’t see Democrats abandoning their pro-gay agenda for a pro-family agenda. No, the Democrats win two presidential elections in a row and the Republican rats are abandoning the ship. We have to get some intelligent, well spoken people with legal backgrounds to speak out for our side.

[ctdonath2]

A man & woman devoted to each other usually procreate.
A man & man, or woman & woman, absolutely cannot.

Contraception removed procreation as a typical consequence of male-female devotion. Procreation is considered as optional as adoption.
However, marriage for devotion’s sake remains.
Procreation now being an option instead of a consequence of marriage, and marriage being an option instead of a consequence of procreation, devotion remains the sole basis for modern marriage.
Procreation no longer being a compelling component of the institution, absolute inability to becomes irrelevant.
And so the non-sequitur of “gay marriage” went from absurdity to legal right.

And so it shall continue, until plummeting population compels society to recognize there IS something special about a man & woman devoted.

[higgmeister]

Objective reason, a male connector plugs into a female connector.