Posted on 03/05/2013 4:48:04 AM PST by Kaslin
"Im not a gun owner and, as I think as is the case for the more than half the people in the country who also arent gun owners, that means that for me guns are alien. In the current rhetorical climate people seem not to want to say: I think guns are kind of scary and dont want to be around them." -- Josh Marshall
"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." -- Sigmund Freud
Sorry, but your Second Amendment rights no longer apply because liberals like Josh Marshall tinkle on themselves every time they come within fifty feet of a gun. This is really what the debate on gun control in America comes down to in the end: people who lose nothing if guns are banned because they dont use them demanding that everyone else be disarmed. Meanwhile, trying to reason with gun control advocates is like arguing with a four year old about whether her imaginary friend is real or not. It doesn't matter how clearly you prove your case; she'll be pouring her pal tea two minutes after you've left the room. Speaking of imaginary
1) A "gun free zone" wont keep bad people with guns away: The basic problem with a "gun free zone is that anyone you can't trust with a gun will bring it in anyway while it will cause the people you'd want armed in a dangerous situation to leave their weapons behind. If this concept actually worked, we'd just train all of our soldiers in Jiu-jitsu and then we'd declare everywhere we sent them to be a "gun free zone." Admittedly, Mortal Kombat: Afghanistan sounds like it would be an amazing movie, but someone needs to inform Democrats that the world doesn't really work this way.
2) Criminals and lunatics don't obey gun laws: The belief that someone who's planning to go on a killing spree is going to turn in a gun because it's made illegal is almost as nuts as going on the killing spree. Yet, the gun grabbers in the Democrat Party operate on the assumption that nut jobs like Adam Lanza or a gangbanger who sells crack for a living is going to get rid of a high-capacity magazine if Congress says he can't have it. That's like a prohibitionist who gets upset about alcoholism and deals with the problem by demanding that all the people without drinking problems have to be kept away from booze.
3) We already have somewhere between 200-300 million guns in this country: Adding to the last point, ever heard this old joke?
A drunk loses the keys to his house and is looking for them under a lamppost. A policeman comes over and asks what hes doing.Im looking for my keys he says. I lost them over there.
The policeman looks puzzled. Then why are you looking for them all the way over here?
Because the light is so much better.
If there were no already existing guns in America, gun control could conceivably help keep weaponry out of the hands of criminals and mass murderers. However, in a nation that's already armed to the teeth, the next Adam Lanza, Jared Loughner, Tookie Williams or Mumia Abu-Jamal has already got his gun and new laws will only disarm law abiding Americans.
4) Gun owners aren't required to explain a "need" for our Second Amendment rights: Why do gun owners "need" their guns? The same reason that Rosa Parks "needed" her seat at the front of the bus. In other words, it's our constitutional right; so kiss off! If you need more of an explanation than that, why does California "need" to have its votes counted in the next presidential election? Why do we "need" so many liberal newspapers? Why not close a few? Why do movie stars "need" to make so much money for their films? Why don't we confiscate it? What was it that Ann Coulter said?
"Free people are not in the habit of providing reasons why they 'need' something simply because the government wants to ban it. Thats true of anything but especially something the government is constitutionally prohibited from banning, like guns."
5) You're not fooling us: Liberals like to think they're smarter than everyone else, but they're as transparent as glass to anyone who's paying attention. That's why gun sales have blown up like a can of shaving cream in a microwave. If Barack Obama, Diane Feinstein, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden and the rest of the Democrat gun grabbers in Congress could get away with it, they would ban and confiscate every gun in America tomorrow -- and people know it. Anything short of, "Nobody is allowed to own a firearm except the government," is unacceptable to them and that's why they always seem so ghoulishly pleased after tragedies like the Gabrielle Giffords shooting or the Newtown massacre. Everybody else is thinking of the victims, while they're twirling their mustaches Snidely-Whiplash-style and repeating, "Never let a serious crisis go to waste," to each other.
There is only one reality. Criminals (including people like Holmes and Lanza) do not obey laws.
In maryland they posted signs saying they doubled the fines for speeding in posted areas *near* schools.
But these speed free zones obviously didnt work so they posted signs that say ‘photo enforced’ and they post white speed camera (laser) vans on the main roads that go through the ‘no speed’ school areas to send fines to those speeding (I report them on my waze app.)
Clearly the signs alone didnt work.
What John Hawkins, author of “The Five Things” article, doesn’t understand is that liberals do indeed understand all these things quite well. What Conservatives don’t understand is that liberals do understand. Liberals are not stupid or misguided as so many conservatives want to believe. Liberals just have a different set of beliefs which one is a huge distrust of the Great Unwashed or sometimes referred to as Joe and Jane Sixpack. Actually, they’re scared of us, thus their desire to disarm us. Pretty simple actually.
Ah, the People’s Republic of Maryland, where the new face of fascism has emerged.
LOL, now Rosa demands that we pay her bus fare and is on TV whining that the sequester might make her pay a few cents of her own money for the ride.
You are correct that liberals are not misguided, but they are definitely stupid
Just use the Left’s logic, tell them it’s just like abortion....Law of the Land!
Get over it!
The gun grabbers are using misdirection to accomplish their goals. Their claimed goals are crime reduction, but the actual goal is civilian disarmament.
There are two types of anti-gunners: one is the example of the bedwetter who is afraid of the scary guns because he or she has been propagandized against guns their whole life. Another term for people like this is "useful idiot." The second type (usually an office holder or journalist) is the one who knows full well what they are doing and why, and uses lies and obfuscation to accomplish their agenda.
“You are correct that liberals are not misguided, but they are definitely stupid”
Some are stupid no doubt. But, to use a word coined by GW, never “misunderestimate” your adversary.
Now there's a tagline for ya.
One more thing they don’t know.......gun grabbers do not plan on disarming themselves.
Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence and stupidity...
BUT DON’T RULE OUT MALICE.
As an aside, has anyone ever tried this?
“That’s why gun sales have blown up like a can of shaving cream in a microwave.”
100% in agreement with you here. Listen up all you business owners, school administrators, Church officers, etc. out there with "gun free zone" signs or something similar. Putting up a sign and hoping for the best is not a valid defensive strategy. If I am forced to use your establishment know that I am probably going to come in armed anyway if I believe I can do so without causing a disturbance. You'll never know. If you do know, it'll be because I stopped something bad from happening. If I have to come into your establishment unarmed, and something bad happens. I am going to hold you professionally and personally responsible (liable) for failure to enforce your zone and my safety. I (or my heirs) will sue you for every nickel you have. I will own and shut down your business. I will own every dime you have ever made and every dime you ever will make personally. You will end up living in a trailer by the interstate. Does that sound like something you want to risk?
2) Criminals and lunatics don't obey gun laws: The belief that someone who's planning to go on a killing spree is going to turn in a gun because it's made illegal is almost as nuts as going on the killing spree. Yet, the gun grabbers in the Democrat Party operate on the assumption that nut jobs like Adam Lanza or a gangbanger who sells crack for a living is going to get rid of a high-capacity magazine if Congress says he can't have it.
I agree with you on this, but I think you're missing the point. You're taking them ('rats) statements at face value. The "gun control debate" is not and never has been about public safety. Anyone can look up the statistics and realize that firearms bans increase violent crime. Anyone with a greater than room temperature IQ knows that in a confrontation with a criminal it is better to be armed with your fate in your hands than to not be armed and rely on the good intentions of said criminal not to hurt you or your loved ones.
What the so-called liberals (aka socialists and fascists) are really after is simply the control part of gun control. They can't get to where they want to go while we still have the means of successfully resisting them. So enacting so-called "gun control" is really just the first of many steps towards people control. They'll push as hard as they can, take whatever incremental gains they can get. We should not give them an inch. This isn't about saving a few lives, this is about saving America, freedom, and liberty. Many, many lives have been lost - willingly risked and sacrificed - to ensure our continued freedom. We cannot stand by and surrender those freedoms and dishonor their memory.
How about, “I only obey ONE gun law, the second amendment. period.”
Let the feds figure out what the rest of that means. You F’ing jerks, come and get them.
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Try a squirt can of engine starting fluid with the microwave set to turn on after 45 minutes
Stroll out the back door and drive away slowly in your flat black Chevy VOLT
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