Posted on 02/02/2013 9:52:39 AM PST by lowbridge
The idea of expanded background checks for prospective gun owners is quickly becoming the battleground in Congress for any changes in national weapons control legislation.
March On Washington Source: WikicommonsIn nearly a dozen national polls from varying organizations, an overwhelming large number of people seem in favor of more background checks on gun owners.
A Quinnipiac poll covering three states, Virginia, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania, showed that more than 90 percent of those polled favored expanding background checks to people who buy weapons at gun shows.
Last week, Constitution Daily looked at polling questions on guns from nine different sources, including Fox News, NBC, ABC, Pew Research, and Gallup.
On average, 89 percent of those people polled wanted expanded background checks. The background check issue, along with a desire to devote more resources to mental health issues, were the two ideas that had overwhelmingly large support in the polls.
At Wednesday’s gun violence hearings in Washington, the National Rifle Association and a key GOP senator downplayed the significance of expanding background checks.
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UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS = REGISTRATION = CONFISCATION = WAR
What part of this do they oot understand?
In California, all sales (save some curio long guns) require background checks and a 10 day waiting period. All handguns registered in this process. In Jan 2014, long guns will need to be registered. All so-called assault weapons already require registration and no new non-compliant models can be purchased.
CA has already had some limited confiscation after registration....... cetain non-compliant assault weapons.
If we get universal background checks, you can bet after the next mass shooting, they will demand registration.
The polling companies did not inform the low information voter that a universal background check would have implement universal registration for it to be possible.
All sales have to be background checked already in PA. There is no registration and there has been no confiscation.
Federal law prohibits any registration.
If they want to change this law, then they will have a fight on their hands. But as the law is now, all records of background checks are purged.
Why is that?
There is a list of prohibited buyers, not a list of allowed buyers.
Red Steel:
The polling companies did not inform the low information voter that a universal background check would have implement universal registration for it to be possible.
FTA:
...more than 90 percent of those polled favored expanding background checks to people who buy weapons at gun shows.
I would add to Red’s comment that based on the article, the low information voters don’t know that background checks are ALREADY done at gun shows. zer0bama and his minions in the drive-by media are lying by misdirection.
Perhaps, but what difference does it make?
And, J. Edgar Hoover didn't keep files on regular Americans who hadn't broken the law. If there is a Form 4473 executed as part of this, the law says the seller has to maintain a copy of this in a fireproof safe for 10 years. Federal law prohibits any registration
Yes, there is a law against it but that has not stopped ATF from visiting gunshops and asking for copies of their Forms 4473 - this is documented.
You are so very trusting of the government that is preparing to enslave you and you don't even know it. You believe they will obey the laws which they have clearly shown they will not. Universal checks requiring paper documentation make registration, through some concocted emergency action, available to the government - they know who has what and that is REGISTRATION.
Registration is just Confiscation unexecuted, again on the pretext of some BS emergency like the police actually did in New Orleans following Katrina even though it was egregiously and patently illegal and proven so afterwards.
Democrats and RINOS
GOD DENIERS AND CONGENITAL LIARS
ARE REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH INCITERS/
FOR FIRST YOUR MONEY THEN YOUR GUNS
AND BE DEFENSELESS WHEN CROOKS COME
It’s time to get government out of Your face
Your religion and your pocketbook
(The above is designed to be printed up and passed around your precinct and your friends and neighbors as a (index sized) palmcard.
If your argument is that the gov’t will do what it wants regardless of any law prohibiting registration, then, pardon the phrase, what difference does it make what the law is?
Don’t they already do background checks before a purchase? Isn’t that what the call in for approval is?
I’m not sure what I’m missing. Is there some way around background checks?
If they are caught violating the law by a future administration, they can be punished. “The government” is not universally monolithic.
A private citizen who is not in the business of selling firearms may sell a firearm to another private citizen without undergoing a Federal background check. In some states, like PA, all transfers except those within a family, must go through a dealer and be checked.
Anyone who is in the business of selling firearms needs to have a federal license and do checks on all sales, whether they are at a gun show or any other place.
Exactly. And if the law says registration is illegal and permits the ATF to access 4473 forms only when a gun is used in a crime, then it is simply not true that background checks = registration.
These are the same people that have encouraged the butchering of maybe 50 million unborn souls. Do you think they'd skip a heartbeat in denying you your right to a gun? Go look at that internet picture of the Chinese officer preparing to blow a young girl's brains out while the other good soldiers hold her trying to duck out of the way of the splatter. Those people are no different than many of the liberals in this country today. They are just using words now.
Substituting the word “they” for the word “crooks” would make this poem equally applicable to government agents, who represent crooks anyway. :(
When you purchase a gun from a dealer. They give you a Form 4473 to fill out which contains pertinent data and questions you have to answer about numerous things. If you answer these correctly and the dealer has no reservations about selling a weapon to you he calls NICS for a clearance/approval. That obtained, he sells you the gun, unless there is a local/state law requiring a waiting period.
In my state, a CCW holder can fill out the Form 4473 and take the gun away right then. I’ve done this multiple times. I’ve saved way over the NICS check cost to pay for the CCW, BTW.
So your argument is that the gov’t will gain access to the Form 4473’s on a routine basis and ignore the law regulating their access to this information?
A background check is an infringement, as much as a license or permit requirement. What part of “shall not be infringed” confuses them?
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